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Microsoft Sues Testing Materials Vendor

Microsoft has filed a federal lawsuit against testing materials vendor TestKing, alleging that the company is illegally selling the actual answers to its certification exams.

Microsoft has filed a federal lawsuit against testing materials vendor TestKing, alleging that the company is illegally selling the actual answers to its certification exams.

The suit, filed last week in Federal District Court in Seattle, claims that the "defendants have provided and are providing, without license or permission from Microsoft, the original copyrighted exam content from Microsoft Certification Exams."

Microsoft has always taken its certification programs seriously because it helps assure continued sales and proper support of its products. Apparently, according to the suit, TestKing is helping candidates cheat -- at Microsoft's expense.

"We guarantee that by using our Microsoft Exams training materials you will be prepared for your upcoming Microsoft Exam, and will pass on your first attempt," say claims on TestKing's site.

TestKing also operates other sites through which the company sells the infringing testing materials, according to the complaint. In fact, Web searches found several other, apparently related sites also selling similar test preparation materials.

The lawsuit claims multiple counts of copyright infringement and asks for a permanent injunction to stop TestKing from continuing to sell or distribute the materials. It also seeks damages. Additionally, Microsoft's attorneys asked the court to turn the Internet domain TestKing.com over to them.

TestKing's Web site lists a mailing address for a company named Certification Trendz Limited in the United Kingdom but no phone number, and the site does not identify the company's executives or management. Due to the inability to initially identify who runs the company, Microsoft issued what is called a "John Doe" lawsuit, with the defendants to be identified later.

On its site, TestKing claims to sell test training materials for a wide variety of different technology companies' certifications in addition to Microsoft's. Materials are also offered for products from Adobe, Apple, Checkpoint, Cisco, Citrix, Dell, IBM, HP, Symantec, Sun and Oracle. TestKing also offers preparation materials for some non-vendor certifications such as Certified Information Systems Security Professional and CompTIA A+.

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer, which first reported the suit, has posted Microsoft's filing here [PDF].

About the Author

Stuart J. Johnston has covered technology, especially Microsoft, since February 1988 for InfoWorld, Computerworld, Information Week, and PC World, as well as for Enterprise Developer, XML & Web Services, and .NET magazines.

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Reader Comments:

Tue, Jul 31, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous

well, Testking sucks, I bought Testking material but I failed my Microsoft exam :( I saw a previous comment mentioned TEST104, I passed my exams by test104, I like it.

Mon, May 14, 2007 Pete London

'Microsoft Trainer' et al - I agree to a point, & think it's right that any n00b off the street can't read one book and attend one course to get a good knowledge of a subject.

Now, the MS Press book, hands on experience in a live environment, and a test lab for those things you don't have available in your live environment however does fit the bill.

I'm all for more simulations, but so long as verbatim questions are unavailable I don't have a problem with multiple choice either. I don't always agree with MS but they're right here, Testking and their ilk do nothing but devalue the certifications. Just to make it perfectly clear, I'm not defending MS, I'm defending the value of a handful of certificates I worked to get.

MCSDt from TN - If you can't pass an exam without the questions and answers, you probably shouldn't be taking it.

Fri, May 11, 2007 bigboss Anonymous

I gave ccna .cisco question are lot
better then ms.MS question are big and not conceptual !!!

Tue, Apr 17, 2007 Tess Queen Anonymous

Hurry up guys! pass your exams or pass the way!

Wed, Oct 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

What happend ? testking still seeling MS exams...

Wed, Sep 20, 2006 microsoft is a big hypocr Anonymous

Did not a few years ago microsoft broke....how many laws???? Trying to dominate the market by monoplyzing it??? Did not microsft almost get dismantled but big Pres BUSH let the law suits go??? For you guys defending microsft get a clue

Wed, Sep 20, 2006 MCSDt TN

Say what you will. nobody could not pass these test without sites like testking. If you say you could. Your a liar.....bottom line. Suing testking is like microsoft cutting its own throat. If nobody could pass their exam. nobody would take their exam. We will read things like "microsoft exam takers down" Microsft could not pass their own exams, the use measure up with the same exact questions as testking and ms is ok with that? Talk about msft being a big hypocrite.

Mon, Sep 11, 2006 Andrew Australia

After working in the field for years I picked up a training role that required me to get MS certs so I could get my mct. For w2k I sat the courses and studied the MOC courseware. The exams were difficult and it was as much an english test as it was a tech test. When the time came to upgrade to 2003 I realised that the courseware is not anywhere near enough to prepare you for the exams anymore. But if you learn MS speak they get easier my last few certs were easy because I was used to MS questions. Down side (or for me upside)is I have access to over 40 MCSE's if I dont know something, someone will. how is a normal person supposed to get that kind of support?

Mon, Sep 4, 2006 john UK

People complain about Test King helping people pass exams. 70% of Test King dumps are riddled with errors. As an IT pro I have to look up what I dont agree with and find the answer for myself.

The questions are excellent and really test my knowledge. MOC Material isnt good enough and I could never pass using their books.

Give me credit. I have a TK Dump I am using at the moment of 800 pages!!! Do MS know how hard that is to learn and rationalise.

MS just wish TK where called MS-Kings.

Fri, Sep 1, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

prep for 70-270. Used cybex books, ms books. I've built networks, work in the area (experience in troubleshooting) studying Learnkey stuff (cds & books). And still failed the stupid exam scoring 50% for christ sake. Then went to test king for help. Test king have actually helped in 'preparing' for the actuall exam. Teaches you how to look at the questions and what kinds of questions (senarios etc) you will be getting. You get good explanations on correct & incorrect answers so you are actually learning something. You can't really pass memorizing questions. MS exams are good to have and testking questions are a good tool for preparing yourself. Only read books etc as a resource.

Wed, Aug 30, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

I studied my ass off for my MCSE and other certs as well. Sometimes I used testking material in addition to all the other material. This included classroom instruction that I spend thousands on. Plus all this, I have 8 years experience in MS Administration. If somebody had no experience and only used testking, I can't see how they would pass. Plus on the 2003 cert, MS is now using simulations. Can't reproduce those...

Wed, Aug 30, 2006 Chris Anonymous

Buy a book, study, practice, and do the labs. If you don't understand the materials after doing all that then you know it is time to take a class.

Once you think you understand the materials to do the job, then go buy the testking Q&A (or a braindump) for the exam and you will find that you already know enough to pass a normal exam. You will also know enough to correct some of the answers that are just plain wrong.

Where the testking come into play is in all the trick, stupid or obsure questions. Do a small bit of research so that you understand the question and the answer and you will have those down as well.

At that point you will be ready to not only do the job, but you will also be able to pass the exam.

Sun, Aug 27, 2006 mido Anonymous

i know its wrong but i used be when i take the course i see the course is compeltly diffrent with the exams so its hard to answer without help from test king

Sat, Aug 26, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Certification Trendz (TestKing.com and its never ending list of other sites) is a scam company. I, for once, hope Microsoft wins! Shut them down from ripping off people and hiding in the UK from the reach of the law.

Sat, Aug 26, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

There has never been a proof that a vast percentage of people who study past questions actually pass the real exam too. I don't know who ever did that survey. It is all hearsay and a good way of just advancing the myth that braindumps makes people pass. If that was true, everyone who takes any exam in any field by studying past questions would be acing it. But it does not happen. People who are dense will fail no matter what material you give them. You think memorizing 500 questions is easy for an idiot? No it is not. Someone who already has a good enough idea about how things work reads past questions as a way of knowing the wording, possible traps etc etc.. It is a valid form of learing from past questions. I became a CPA in 1994, and studied my ass off from past cpa exams. When i had taken my SAT's, i bough 6-8 books of past stuff just to know what i needed to know. This entire bull about braindumps is soooooooo overblown that it is amusing. Any time someone whines about braindumps, it just seems so childish and unreal. It's the same lines like.. my cert is devalued, i wanna be honest etc etc.. who said u r not being honest by learning from past resources? You made that bar for yourself .. and now you wanna hang everyone from it yourself. You can be totally honest and peaceful by learning from questions .. MS NDA is good for MS.. but i guess everyone wants to be a salesperson from MS deep in their hearts.. why?.. why do you want to be selling MS crap? Can't you be honest to yourself and see the irony here? Stop feeling sorry and guilty for yourself and get on with it.. if Nyone gives you past questions, take it as a favor.. don't whine about it cos MS wants to rule you...

Fri, Aug 25, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

I worked my butt off to get to where I am with my certifications. I admit I have been having problems passing the 70-292, and I couldnt figure out why. So I bought a test king study guide, in addition to a transcender, and an STS guide. I was disappointed that the trancender looked so much like the test I failed three times. It doesnt help me understand the material, it just gives answers. As an IT professional, I trashed it and am studying the transcender now. I got my MCSE 200 the honest way, and I will get my MCSE 2003 the honest way. It isnt the actual material that I dont understand, it is just the way it is presented in some cases. But, there is nothing more disappointing than failing the exam by 10 points....

Thu, Aug 24, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

I'm curious, if Microsoft gets rights to the Testking website, which is one of their demands, will they then go after tesking.com, etc. like they are going after micorsoft.com?

Wed, Aug 23, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

"I do not now, nor have I ever used testking products. I have always had abnormally high test scores"...Floyd Landis.

Wed, Aug 23, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Many MS employees use TK for their MS exams anyway. This entire thing is silly. By the way, MS announced lawsuits this week against cybersquatters. Micorsoft.com, etc. Their attorneys have been soooo busy. I hope all of this litigation does not stiffle that old MS creativity.

MS employees...make sure you delete all those TK files that you have been passing around. This lawsuit will be a major priority for the Pakistani court system and I would hate to see your complicity in this damage your case.

Wed, Aug 23, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

"There are only so many questions you can ask before the same "concepts" are repeated"...Doesn't this imply that people are learning the topic (by cheating) then? :)

Mon, Aug 21, 2006 john usa

This is funny, I have 3 MCSE's right. So why am I getting tested in DNS, WINS and DHCP on my third MCSE. Oh, I know, its because they dont have enough filler to charge me for new exams so instead of being tested on new stuff I get the most poorly worded questions about subjects I passed on my NT 4.0 exams.
For all of you screaming about cheating, I have 2 kids and I have to work. These idiot headhunters only know your latest cert even though I have 10 years worth of MCSE.
Want people to stop cheating? Make 1 upgrade exam and word it fairly. How many times do I get WINS questions in drag and drops that I cant even figure out what I have to do in the question?

Mon, Aug 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Well after reading ALL of these posts here and at other forums, it is quite obvious that NO ONE has any clue about what the certifications mean. Microsoft does not create the exams to test "YOUR" knowledge on how you use Microsoft products; they don't care! They use them to test against an industry standard. Obviously no one has ever taken a real "test" before such as at a school or university. If they did they would know that when you take an exam, you GET the test BACK with questions and answers in a corrected form ............ NONE of any vendor certification exams are ever given back to a student ....why.. so you can't cheat.......and tell anyone, what a load of garbage. Do universities and colleges rewrite EVERY exam completely each semester and year .... most only reword them. There are only so many questions you can ask before the same "concepts" are repeated. If the exams truly tested each individual ... then the certification would be an excellent tool for measuring a person's experience and value. Take note to the newer Microsoft exams; some of the questions are so obscure and unrealistic that without some form of help you would NOT pass. If these exams want some meaning make them realistic such as letting the examinee have access to the internet or the help database. That is what "WE" in IT use everyday to solve problems. The main problem with these exams is that it tests the examinee on how good they are at taking exams; not the content. Multiple choice are the "HARDEST" to answer. Pick the best choice? Who's best choice? Simulation are the best. I don't have the definitive answer to correct any of this, but cheating with the "actual" questions on Testking is not the best way. Transcenders helps the students learn the content and concepts in a much better way, and helps the examinee get better acquainted with an exam format. Microsoft will do better having "situation" based exams that test real life learning scenarios by using simuation. These are the best type of exams. I should know, I have been helping write these and other vendor exams for that past 10 years.

Mon, Aug 21, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

This is a case of history repeating itself. About three years age the same people were prosecuted for the same thing. Back then the company was called Troy Tech. I had seen the old test prep and was disturbed at the amount of blatantly wrong information. That is why I am a fan of learning the material by using Microsoft approved material and supplementing that information with study guides that cite the source for the answers. Two reliable sources that I prefer are Exam Cram and Transcender.

As far as adaptive testing and performance tests, I am in favor of both. Microsoft has done both adaptive as well as conventional testing. I would hate to think how expensive a CCIE style test would be though.

Sun, Aug 20, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

The MCA appears to be more of a project management cert rather than a lab. MS is missing the point here. If they went to an 8 hour lab (comparable to the only real cert out there...CCIE), this discussion would not be happening. MS has only itself to blame.

Sun, Aug 20, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

ah, what a crap, cheating is not only on microsoft test, i believe everybody in IT ever cheat before, either using cheat to play games, crack a software for 'testing purpose', etc. Anybody can raise their hands and say 'I never cheat before!" BOOO !. If you solely depends on MS Certs to work in IT you might as well looking for trouble, we need MS certs because the industry need it, and so for other certification, it's only compliment what we have (or not). Those who praise MS wins over TestKing, get a live !, it will never stop 'cheating' ways of getting MS certs. Those who only use testking to get the cert to land a job, get on with it, but if later on you can't prove your skill on your real work environment, the hell with you !, eh eh eh ...

Sun, Aug 20, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Using testking is cheating yourself and all the other people who worked hard to get their MS Cersts. No wonder the bottom fell out of the MCSE market because it is full of some many frauds. Microsoft is right to go after Testking I just wish it had done it a bit sooner. Hopefully simulations will stop the cheaters and test that people really know what they are talking about. Also for the person who said there should be levels there are levels MCP, MCSA and then MCSE. MCSE is not ment for newbies it is ment for serious sys admins. Now all that has happened is that MS will are launching the MCA program which costs some ridiculous amount of money to do. As for all those cheaters out there I hope that you get found out in your job interviews.

Sun, Aug 20, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous


How will you comment on these search results?

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How many sites doing this business?

Sat, Aug 19, 2006 champa india

hey what is this u just provide us the right training kit than what is the use of reading those all tk dumps

Sat, Aug 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

What I find on page stating," Microsoft has filed a federal lawsuit against testing materials vendor TestKing".
On the same page to its right is an add by Google as under:
Ads by Google
Network Training
Get the Certification You Need. Research Programs & Request info.
www.EducationCentral.com
Does this mean that if some site comes via Google then it is OK for them to sell training and testing material?
MS be judicious.

Sat, Aug 19, 2006 Bob Anonymous

I heard from several very good that there are several other test providers that give you the actual questions/answers without having to go thru the hastle of reading the explanations that TK provides (tongue firmly in cheek). So Microsoft, instead of spending valuable resources upgrading your testing program, I agree that you should spend whatever it takes on litigation. I think Microsoft should just storm the site. As I am sure you are aware the technical contact/web hosting registration for testking.com is in Bellevue, WA 98007. I thought Microsoft had its own military force that operated independently within the US anyway.

Hmmm...seems like TK picked Bellevue just to screw with you.

Microsoft...nice PR move. TK sales are probably higher than ever today.

Sat, Aug 19, 2006 Annonymous Annonymous

Hi. What I understand from this suit and comments by different readers of MCPMAG, is that Testking has lot of good quality stuff. If in the absence of actual Qestions and Answers they can prduce Study Guides, Questionsand Answers with explanations, then Microsoft should take a good step forward and enter intp collaboration with them and one more company. They should collectively design and rewrite the training ang testing material. Microsoft should endorse such material and then launch it on internet for sale. Interests of Microsoft as well as of these approved companies with be protected and candidates with have authentic material for preparation. Consequenly Microsoft will also gain financially form this partnership. Hopr MS dares to be brave enough by entering into a collaboration with testking.

Sat, Aug 19, 2006 Mel Anonymous

Who cares. MS Press has published terrible books and the exams have been useless for years...not because of the alleged dumps. Hey, how about creating an MS lab cert...oh that is right, the architect program to the rescue.

Sat, Aug 19, 2006 Annonymous Canada

Necessity is the mother of invention.
This saying goes with every field of work in this world. If there was no need for Study Guides, Exam preparation material, then even if some fool endavors to prepare such material, NO ONE will buy it. Sale purchase of such material by over thousands of websites suggests that such material is needed. Microsfot or any any vendor does not reveal its questions and answers. This means that such material is guess work from different books and testing material. I wonder Microsoft has gone so much ahead of going into litigation. Certification candidates will have to waiste hours and hours of finding material for preparation of certification exams in the absence of such material on sites. Who cares for the students?

Sat, Aug 19, 2006 Anonymous UK

Washington DC to me is a Domain Controller in Washington, MS exams besides knowing about MS you have to know US geography ! As for the double negative Q&A these are logic questions not MS questions, though they are near the truth for the way GPOs are written The MS study guides should include ALL the material required for the exam so there is no need to go elsewhere and certainly not to have to read all the Knowledge Base Articles (KBA) to know of some rare bug. Simulations and Labs nice idea but I can see the cost and waiting list go sky-high look at the CCIE. If anything it should be a graded system like a Pilots licence, entry level so you don’t screw up the system, intermediate level for the work we would expect to see and maybe test pilot for people who work completely unstable systems that should have never been built. The case for Testking is as simple as designing a backup system cost of failure and retake $100 plus time, cost of Testking $50. If MS want to put Testking out of business they need to subsidise the training and testing from the license fees. Thus they will generate a whole load of people who are loyal MS believers and won’t get distracted by Linux etc.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Iraq

This is just another PR job from the boys in Redmond, Test King and the others will just simply move the servers to another jurisdiction.

The fact is that the exams are not well written, and there anot enough books with the appropiate content

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Simulations are the way to go. I've studied MS Books that explain the theories behind the technology, but most of it is not applicable to the poorly worded scenario based testing. I breeze through the simulations because I know what I'm doing, but the scenarios are ridiculous on some of the questions. Especially for a sys admin of a small company because most of the questions are geared toward admins of corporations with 5000+ users. I've been a sys admin for a couple of years and in IT for about 6 and I've never come across half of the crap they test on. Yet my employer still wants me to have the certs...MS should make the tests better or stop crying.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

i think a lot of people miss the point of the certification...the only thing it really means nowadays is that you've studied the material. i should be able to ask a mcse about dfs and frs, for example, and get more than a blank stare or a flat out lie. buying a test, memorizing it, and taking it doesn't mean you've studied the material. if you don't know the technology, you're cheating yourself.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

MS should suit those boot camp classes. Instructors teach the exact exam questions in the class. All the students pass MS tests by the end of the class. Those boot camp classes gurantee you get MCSE in a couple of weeks or you get the money back. I am just a low paid IT person can not afford expensive boot camp class. I can only afford MS press books, Testking, Transcender and community college classes. It takes me months or even years to get an MS certificate. I just want to get promotion or better job.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Why MS doesn't suit other testing materials vendors like Transcender? Their materials are good too.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 John Anonymous

After 10 years in the business and 8 with current MCSE status I'm convinced that it's impossible to pass these tests with "approved" materials and real world hands on experience. Like others have said, misleading questions and trickery in the exams have made Testking what it is today.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

It's a catch 22. Microsoft needs certified professionals in its field to help care for the product (and sell it). But if it makes the test too damn hard, there will be no professionals out there to support or promote it. So they have to strike a middle ground approach, that admittedly, isn't ideal, but can't be helped. The tools that microsoft gives you are inadequate to pass the test (on top of a poor test to begin with). It's no wonder folks turn to Testking, or other 3rd parties to get an extra push. You can only jump through so many hoops before you go looking elsewhere for assistance in passing these tests.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Like Microsoft doesn't make enough money greedy asses leave the little fish alone there not hurting anyone besides it's pretty hard to pass these test with just the information that microsoft gives you in those books. And the way they word those exams is ridiculous

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Robert Antigua

I think no one should be allowed to take any exams until they have years of experience. There are MCSEs that have no idea how a network is put together except for the crap they spew directly from a book. I never hire anyone that went to a Boot Camp for anything. Some people are just great test takers.
Just to qualify to take the exam you should have at least 5 years checkable refrences.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 ITMgr TX

I have been in the IT arena for over 10 years and I don't have a degree or any certifications and finding a job that is worth anything is nearly impossible. I am just about ready to spend $8000 to get my MCSE through a boot camp... are you saying that I would be wasting my time? I run two locations for 26 users, 4 salesman on Server 2003. I have no support staff. I do it all alone. If certs aren't worth anything then why do employers (creditable companies) demand them?

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

When new technologies are introduced by MS, new exams follow very soon after. There is NO WAY that working with a product for 2 or 3 months and purchasing OFFICIAL books by MS can prepare you for MS exams. The MS exams tend to focus on obscure parts of any product and are generally poorly written and grammatically incorrect. For these reasons individuals that are required to certify to keep employment look to these 'braindumps'. I say, there has got to be a better way!

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Only real testing is practical, on site" implementation..like CCIE. Greatly increasing fund of questions (where you need real expirience, type of Qs) per exam could also help.
Simulations are step forward but only to find new way of answers...walktrough.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Dany Anonymous

I have tried studying Msoft Books, and I failed. Tried these exams, I passed. Guys let's support testkings. To hell with Msoft.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 JohnB UK

I did actually buy some Testking "training" material a few years ago in all innocence along with what I thought were similar offerings from Microsoft approved company MeasureUp. I actually thought that it was very well prepared and the explanations of the reasons for answers being correct were excellent and probably superior to the MeasureUp information. It wasn't until I was sitting in the exam room that I realised I had actually seen quite a few of the questions before! I think I would have passed on the strength of my studies anyway - I actually did an MOC training course and a lot of practise and bookwork as well as having experience. The pity is the quality of the Test King explanations were excellent if only they didn't use the real questions it would be a really good resource!
I support Microsoft pursuing them wholeheartedly - if the real questions and answers are available for sale then it makes the qualification completely pointless!
Hopefully the use of "simulation" questions will increase which will make cheating harder and give more credit for hands on experience rather than booklearning ability!

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Foxy UK

About time this happened what has taken MS so long? It is nonsense to say you cannot pass a MS Exam without reading brain dumps. I have passed 5 of the MCSE 2003 track by using the MS Press study guides and the running through all the practice examples in the books with VM's. Braindumps devalue certs and I should know as when I did my MCSE NT4 the transcenders in those days were identical to the exams but all it made me was a paper MCSE. I never employ anyone on certs alone I always test them and if they do have certs I always ask them how they obtained them.

Fri, Aug 18, 2006 Mikeon Anonymous

"Microsoft has always taken its certification programs seriously" - ROTFL

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 wookie Anonymous

as long as there's a need, the supply chain management will continues. If testking disappear, underground testking will prevail... Microsoft should ask Bill Gates to pass their own test without reading any dump..

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Yeh, nice things to hear. I hope not only Microsoft other companies also should take the action against the company like tesking. Because people like test king creates the unqualified professionals in the industry and make certification unrecognized .

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 MCSE-I & CCNE Anonymous

Some of these negative comments are NONSENSE... Transcenders, Braindumps and TestKing are a Godsend to testing... I agree that MS tests are poor at best and frankly the CCNE test is also right up there...

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

The only way you learn something is to repetitively read the material and practice "hands on" excercises if you do not understand it, not to buy cheats.

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Hi, I don't know what Testking do.If you go to www.test104.com, you will find this site is really really a exam seller co. This site is Traditional Chinese language, and they have Simply Chinses and English language too. I think these site is a crim site than testking.

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Too little too late.

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

O.K., this is interesting. A previous comment says that after purchasing the actual test questions and answers (this IS why Microsoft is suing... that "20-35% of the answers TestKing provides are wrong". O.K. - so just suppose that is true. Doesn't this mean the answers that you gave on the test could have been right, but you failed the exam because the answer they had was WRONG!? You never find out which actual questions you answered correctly or incorrectly... How would you know?

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

As a bootcamp instructor, I have experienced bootcamp companies that feed their students pirated copies of testkings for the pirated exam questions. And these are "Microsoft Award Winning" Training Partners! PS: I won't work for them anymore.

The only way to have a valued cert again, is to do away with multiple choice exams altogether!

Simulations are the way to go!

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Over the years I have had mixed emotions about the MS exams. While I have my MCSE, I have gained little by passing an exam. Only when Microsoft has hands-on, performance-based exams such as the CCIE and RHSE will the MSCE really mean anything. Hands on will always trump a written exam. David

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

This doesn't mean sh*t. Ohhh FEDERAL! I'm sure they are scared..

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Microsoft Trainer Anonymous

Try passing a Microsoft exam by only studying Official MSPress Books which are sold at all books stores. You wouldn't pass any exams. THe material is insufficient.

Also, try Microsoft Office Curriculum (MOC). You would still fail.

MCT

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Come on folks. This is just part of the certification game. Microsoft, Prometric and VUE make a killing off of these exams. Even this online mag's parent company is making a killing off of certification training at the TechMentor conferences - do you think they don't spoon feed the exam questions to students also?

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Russ Anonymous

I have been Certified as a Prometric Test Administrator. There are specific instructions for us and also our testees..
We even check for the calulator watch!
I would prefer to see the slow prosper.

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

I guarantee that TestKing sells the actual answers. I purchased their material for extra assistance for one of my exams and was surprised and disappointed to find that they sold actual exam questions and answers. Interestingly enough, about 20-35% of the answers TestKing provides are wrong. Beware TestKing suckers, if all you do is memorize answers TestKing will more likely help you fail than pass.

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

The core Microsoft MCSE Exams for Windows 2003 (70-290, 70-291, 70-293. 70-294) are poorly designed and have numerous ambiguous and tricky questions designed to purposely mislead the test taker. Even experienced admins who know there stuff, but are poor test takers, are failing these exams. This leads them to brain dumps out of frustration. Microsoft needs to make the exams questions fairer and also make most of the exam questions simulation-based to test real knowledge. They should put their money into exam development, not hiring attorneys to sue brain dump companies.

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 George Anonymous

Yeah, the do sell the answers. That's why certification doesn't mean anything.

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Novell used to have an adaptive test which could determine after only a few questions whether you were certifiable material or not, and if it took too many questions for you to understand the concept then you got thrown out. That's testing. Microsoft is only testing for the money and uses phone quotas to control the number of qualified profesionals, whether they are qualified or not.

Thu, Aug 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous

Who cares. Prove it Microsoft!

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