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Study: Jobs Are Out There

There are some good tidings for those who think the slowing economy is translating to even fewer IT jobs.

According to a report recently released by the independent certification company CompTIA, IT staffing is one of the top issues facing CIOs and HR professionals.

“Keeping pace with technology is no longer the most frequently cited challenge facing CIOs,” the report states. The top issues include keeping IT staff up-to-date (66 percent), finding qualified staff (58 percent) and retaining quality staff (50 percent).

In addition, the study found that one in 12 IT positions (of the average 25 IT positions at a typical company with revenues of more than $20 million) remains unfilled and that open jobs tend to remain as such for more than a month and a half.

What are CIOs doing about this problem? Well, one thing they aren’t doing is depending on recruiters, the report states. Rather, they’re turning to local and national advertising and Internet job banks and putting their recruitment resources toward training staff.

There’s also increasing CIO support for certification. Fifty-one percent (compared to 41 percent in 1999) perceive value in certification by an independent IT industry association, and 57 percent say they’re willing to pay more for certified professionals. In fact, more than half of CIOs (51 percent) and HR professionals (54 percent) said they’d hire a new technician with certification and no professional work experience. But 47 percent of CIOs and 38 percent of HR professionals also said they highly value internships for new technicians.

You can read about all the study’s findings at www.comptia.org/aboutus/pr/pr011003.htm.

About the Author

Kristen McCarthy is Senior Editor, Reviews of MCP Magazine.

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Reader Comments:

Sat, May 4, 2002 londoner uk

I am finding it hard to get a job in the uk. All the employers here want experience over qualifications....perhaps its time to look overseas.i will be a full mcp , mcse , soon and i wont be employed due to lack of experience...any advice appreciated . cheers

Sat, Mar 9, 2002 Paul Canada

That's all nice and everything, but it still is not like what it was a few years ago. Companies scooping up graduates right out of school and some not even completing their courses!

Oh the good ole days!!

Mon, Feb 4, 2002 Carl New York City

I recently relocated from St. Louis to New York City figuring there just HAD to be opportunities in the largest city in the Western Hemisphere. I have my A+, & 2 MCP's with 2 years experience in IT, and was successful in landing a temp assignment, only to get caught up in corporate "east coast vs. west coast" politics and ended up jobless once again after 3 short weeks. I found myself working in an environment where NO ONE had any certifications at all, and I honestly feel they felt threatened by my presence, because I really understood how the SID was an integrated part of Win2K, and they called it "that security thingy", and I knew what Active Directory really was, and didn't think it was an improved company phone book.

I feel that the schools and colleges who just keep pumping more and more "IT PROFESSIONALS" into this glutted, saturated industry, with hopes of landing those $60K jobs like they were promised when they signed those student loan papers, should be SHUT DOWN by all of us "out of work IT people", who know the truth of the "real world". Maybe we should contact the TV stations, or consumer protection groups and blow the whistle on this scam where Microsoft and the schools are ripping people off and giving them worthless pieces of paper as their tickets to this "yellow brick road" to Tech City where there's no wizard, and no jobs... only smoke, whistles, and bells.

I'm glad I have former careers to fall back on, although I didn't want to return back to them, I find those skills much more in demand than my IT skills.. "The future belongs to technology!!!" Yeah, right.. Bah Humbug!!!

Thu, Jan 31, 2002 Carla Florida

I am one of the people the tech schools convinced I could get a "GREAT" job by getting certified. I am A+ and Net+ certified working on my MCSE certification. From what I've been reading, I am wasting my time. Either the people on this board are very pessimistic and lazy or I have to stop what I'm doing, take the lost of time and money, and find something else to do. Whattup? Tell me, all ye experts of the cert industry, am I wasting my time. I think not! I am very optimistic. I have worked hard to get this far, I will find a job when the time comes. Unless the post I've read here are true.

Thu, Jan 31, 2002 Carla Florida

I am one of the people the tech schools convinced I could get a "GREAT" job by getting certified. I am A+ and Net+ certified working on my MCSE certification. From what I've been reading, I am wasting my time. Either the people on this board are very pessimistic and lazy or I have to stop what I'm doing, take the lost of time and money, and find something else to do. Whattup? Tell me, all ye experts of the cert industry, am I wasting my time. I think not! I am very optimistic. I have worked hard to get this far, I will find a job when the time comes. Unless the post I've read here are true.

Sun, Jan 27, 2002 justin los angeles

I would LOVE to know where all these reports are coming from. I am CNA 4.11, MCSE 4.0, MCP 2k, one more test for MCSE2k, and have been unemployed since AUGUST! Yet, every month comes and goes, and every website and business magazine I read tells me that "Jobs are on the rise, IT is making a comeback" but I AIN'T SEEN ANYTHING! Maybe next time some jerk writes a report on jobs being 'out there', they can tell us where the hell they are looking.

Mon, Jan 21, 2002 Consulting Florida

Hmmm, Interesting all of you guys moaning that the certifications and experience don't matter -- mabey your right -- try changing your attitude you'll find that works better than any cert you can get right now
For the rest of you - keep on truckin'
Peace

Mon, Jan 21, 2002 Percy CA

You mean to say that you have these certs and you can't provide solutions? You truely are paper! Do you know how many servers there are without administrators? How many SOHO's need small business solutions and websites? How many people do you talk to everyday who don't understand this technology and could benefit from your knowledge. Everyone wants to work for a BIG company where they can be told what to do. I know people who go door to door hand out flyers to do 20 point inspections, Defrag, Backup, Update Drivers on Home PC's that make $75 and hour and they make it. It's called Work. Not hiding in a Fortune 500 company for options.
Become a consultant and provide office management solutions. Live off the fat of the land!

Mon, Jan 21, 2002 Matt MS

A cert might be worth something if MS would get off their lazy butts and actually defend them. As it is they can't be bothered to shutdown braindumps even when they're pointed out them and handed the URL on silver platter.

MS certs are now the laughingstock of the IT world. They're worthless to people trying to get into IT. I've had to fire so many MCSEs for incompetence. We won't even look at new people with certs. No experience, no job. Complain to MS$ about it, not to me.

Sun, Jan 20, 2002 Rich VA

look guys. this cert crap is not working any more. try to get some experience even volunteering rather than waste your time on a piece of paper. let me tell you I hired many people for my IT departement and I was only interested in the candidates experience as a problem solver. Look MS teaches you what they are trying to do tomorrow not today.

Fri, Jan 18, 2002 Julio Chile

Anyone interested on a MCSE (NT) and Compaq Master ASE?

Even I work for a big company (IT dept.) I realize that for employers Cert. is not a must, they appreciate that you be able to SOLVE the problem NOW!

Fri, Jan 18, 2002 Andrew MD

Jobs?? Not here! It's been slow for long before 9/11. A Win2000 MCSE and Netware 5 CNE have done little more than put me in a pool with what seems like 10000 others in area. And "tech schools" keep cranking out more and more all the time.

Thu, Jan 17, 2002 anonymous anonymous

Of course Comptia will have a glowing report about the benefits of certifications in the job market. It'll help them sell more tests and justify price increases. What, you think they are going to come out with a report that says certs aren't worth the paper they are printed on? You think they'll report that there's a glut of people in the job market with certs but no experience? Get real. It's all PR.

Thu, Jan 17, 2002 Richie Rich Boston

There are hardly any IT jobs in today's market. Companies are down sizing and are in a hiring freeze. Maybe it's time for a career change. Giving Microsoft more money for certifications is'nt going to help me pay my bills! These certification web sites sometimes over rate the value of IT certifications. I'm an MCSE, A+, Network+, and I-Net+. Still, as far as a job search goes, these certs seem to mean Squat! The IT party is over. Time to think about a more secure profession. I'm a former health care worker. And it looks like I'm heading back. Since I've worked in IT, I'm been stuck working in an office cubicle, and sitting on my ass all day getting fat with the rest of the IT staff. I'm glad I've left this life style. It may be good for some, but not for me. Good luck on what ever you decide. Thanks for reading my posting...

Thu, Jan 17, 2002 M Boise

There may be jobs out there but there aren't too many here. I talked with a guy today who wants to hire someone to come in and set up complete Win2K networks with Active Directory, etc. He wants someone with experience who needs no training at all - as a matter of fact he has someone he wants them to train. He plans to pay $13-15/hr. He got about 100 resumes in response to his ad. I expect he'll get what he wants.

Thu, Jan 17, 2002 Ward San Jose, CA

Here in the heart of Silicon Valley, there ARE jobs listed on DICE and Monster for this area. But do you ever get a reply when you submit your resume? Hah! Not hardly. I've submitted 15 resumes over the last 2 months, and have received just one reply, and THAT was an automatic form-Email.

Thu, Jan 17, 2002 pennies heaven

There are no jobs out there. I have over 20 years experience in the IT field. I have MCSE NT, MCSE 2000, CCNA, A+, Project Management certification, 15 years with IBM development, wonderful references....and I cannot find a job. It's been over a year now. Depressing...but you cannot give up hope.

Thu, Jan 17, 2002 Roberto Aguayo Orlando, FL

I agree with many of you. I'm an MCSE 2k soon to be MCDBA, Perl 5 Programmer, Unix Administrator and IP Security specialist for a Credit Bureau and still only got 1 job offer that was impossible for a single administrator but for half the price. Can't go further and can't go back. I hope 2002 will bring better jobs for all of us!
Hang in there and Good luck to all!

Thu, Jan 17, 2002 Nigel Boston

I have the MCSD MCSE MCDBA and I find that companies just find any Microsoft certification to be nothing but hot air and hype. Companies only care about one thing and one thing only Experience Experience and more Experience. This whole certification program is a total waster of time and money.

Wed, Jan 16, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

I agree with Ark- The IT Road is painful and difficult. It takes time to be where you wanna be. Those ppl who wake up one day after cert and expect to get a job without any prior exp. are dreaming. It's not that they don't wanna hire you, it's just that they will be trusting you with their heart of the company. They won't trust anybody to manage their data unless they can trust your skills.

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Adrian Argentina

PEOPLE: Dont worry, if you are in the right moment, in the right place, in the right day...maybe...you can be a taxi driver!!! (only if you are MSCE CCNA...etc etc)...

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Adrian Argentina

PEOPLE: Dont worry, if you are in the right moment, in the right place, in the right day...maybe...you can be a taxi driver!!! (only if you are MSCE CCNA...etc etc)...

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Vickie Utah

Has anybody found a good way to get training - even volunteer or internship and get in with the IT departments? Does working for temp IT agencies help get a foot in the door?

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Arkamedies Digital Jungle

Get a Cert or Three (MCSE, CNA, A+)...Grab a low tech job (consultant, installer, pc-tech) gather experience and make connections (2-3 years)..take the next step and look for a more challenging tech job (assistant admin, helpdesk) and repeat...it takes time..and nothing is truely free.

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

Maybe it's about time you upgraded your skills. Areyou on ancient VAX systems- are you still on Solaris 1? These kind of technology can still be found in the Gov't sector.

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

Partner- Build a resume and then be able to support your facts on your resume. Getting a jobin It always begins with the resume. Most of IT guys never focus on this important item. "Technical Resume"

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

I do think that this get certified scam is just that. I also am older and have 20 plus years in business. T he only thing I seem to be able to land is hardware support position and have done vax, unix and the list is endless. I say not show me the beef but show me the jobs , what a scam !!!!!!!!!

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

I agree with both of the last two comments. I posted the "road less travelled" comment. I never have any trouble finding work, and I work both as a crimper of connectors and a designer and implementor of software solutions.

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

How many of you so called cert guys can crimp, design,implement recommend, program? very few. I laugh when a develloper or engineer tells me, i can only do this and not this. Duh- aren't you suppose to be diverse in your skills?

Tue, Jan 15, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

The road less travelled -uh. Sounds great. It's all the same- i can be a paper C++ or MCSD. So no matter what road you select- Experience beats it all. My motto. You will only advance your career with real work exp.

Mon, Jan 14, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

Hmmm...seems like most of you guys complaining are network types (MCSE, CCNA, etc). Ever consider getting a programming cert?? MCSD, Java, Oracle, C++? Take a look at the number of MCSE's compared to the number of MCSD's. Go for the "road less travelled".

Mon, Jan 14, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

I read the comment from the guy in Florida who received over 50 resumes in 4 days and had to pull the ad. That is one of the problems. Lots of people "cruise" the job listings while they are sitting at work, and will fire off a resume just because. They are basically fishing. These spurious resumes get thrown in with the ones from guys who are seriously looking for jobs because they are out of work. I wonder how many of those 50+ resumes were from bona fide job seekers. Of course, there is no way for the potential employer to know who is serious and who is just "cruising the ads" .

Mon, Jan 14, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

I got a job as Director of Technology at a local private, college-prep school within a week of obtaining my MCSE. I was able to plan and implement a complete LAN solution based on Microsoft technologies for this campus, to include Exchange Server 2000, IAS, IIS, etc. for over 1000 clients. I also volunteered to teach the Advanced Placement Computer Science course in C++. I would not have been offered this opportunity without the relevant experience and certification. I am currently working on MCSD cert, and my one bit of advise is, try the education system. There are schools out there that need Technology Coordinators, programming teachers, etc.

Mon, Jan 14, 2002 Jamshed London

There are lot of jobs in London but only for those people who knows stuff real knowledge. Possesing a certification can't gaurantee for any job. So keep studying MCSE and gaining real knowledge. Jobs are out there :)

Sun, Jan 13, 2002 KWS NC

Daniel- sorry to hear that. certified with no experience is like having a dl and can't drive. Start as a techie and show the delivery co. what you can do- You might just rise to the ranks.

Sun, Jan 13, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

One should look at getting Oracle certified. There is always a huge demand for OCP'S in the market place.

Sun, Jan 13, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

One should look at getting Oracle certified. There is always a huge demand for OCP'S in the market place.

Sat, Jan 12, 2002 Daniel Anonymous

Where? I passed 23 cert exams. I am
CCNP, MCSE W2K &NT, MCDBA and
have not even had an interview since
June when I made CCNP. I have no
experience (I am retraining from another
field) and am considered too old. I am
looking for a job as a delivery driver.

Sat, Jan 12, 2002 Vin Wisconsin

It's funny! Our aussie friend claims to have gained no benefit from IT certification, yet look where he is. The State Manager of IS for a multi-billion dollar company. Wow! Might certification have played a small part in your success, Mate?

Fri, Jan 11, 2002 Alan South Dakota

I was Director of Operations & IT for a dot.com that eventually lost funding back in May... I tried for 4 months to find work in the Chicago area before finally picking up my family to move back to South Dakota. I was making good money and had a bright future ahead until the economy went bust, then when I thought things were looking up and I had 3 initial interviews and a second interview lined up 9-11 took the wind out of the sails and every single company decided not to fill to position at that time. I am CCNA and MCSE certified with 15 years of experience and cannot find a job other than doing an occasional 2-3 day contract. I grow tired of hearing about how bad the economy is and pray each day for some bit of good news. To make ends meet I also teach MCSE certification courses at the local university and this quarter enrollment in technology and certification courses is lower than it has been in years... It certainly looks like the push for technology is over and the value of all of our certifications is next to nothing. This news that the jobs are coming back is good news indeed... let us hope it is not just a bunch of fluff...

Fri, Jan 11, 2002 Consultant Houston

I think certs come and go with favor. When things are great in the economy, cert's with some or little experience can get you in doing cool things, but in a down economy you need to know your stuff and have some kind of specialization.

Fri, Jan 11, 2002 mike colorado

I'm A+, Network+, and MCSE. I have sent over a hundred resumes and called many people. I have had 1 interview. Those odds aren't very uplifting. I don't think certification is very worthwhile right now.

Fri, Jan 11, 2002 Hiring Manager NJ

Jobs are there- IT guys simply cruise the fisrt two interviews with admin guys, but whenb they meet the tech interviewer, they fall apart. Yes- knowing specific ans to certain Technology q's is key. if you can get past the tech guy- you will be hired. Otherwise forget it.

Fri, Jan 11, 2002 Ray Maryland

I have never seen such nepotism today like never before. It's not what you know or what certs you hold- it's about knowing Mr X, fitting a certain profile look, Age and whether you are physically attractive. Corporate america is very prejudice and the only way you will get hired is by Knowing who to talk to. I have seen paperless cert guys hired and pd top$$, females who fit a certain profile get hired and pd $$ with no experience at all. What use are they if they can't even change a user profile in word or excel. This is so ahaming.

Fri, Jan 11, 2002 majid mir pakistan islamabad

mcse+exachenge
mcdba

Thu, Jan 10, 2002 Anonymous Anonymous

We posted an opening in our small town in Florida for a Sr Consultant. We received approximately 50 replies within the first four days before we pulled the ad. The ad was specific that we required 10 years of experience with significant experience in a few specific technologies.
The pool of resumes we received was generally highly qualified. It was difficult making the decision.
It would be interesting to hear how it was determinied that there are many job openings and also if 1 1/2 months is a long time or a short time for a job to be open in the general sense across all industries.

Thu, Jan 10, 2002 aussie australia

being certified it not all it it craked up to be. Ive been certified now for 3 years ( MCP, MCSE and CNA + MCP2000, 1 to go for MCSE2000)and not once have I seen a Job of any standing in the local papers. It not What you Know, Its Who you Know!!! that gets you jobs in this industry. Join your local industry association, coltivate freindships with colleges from other companies, Ive change my Last 4 Jobs over the LAst 10 years that way, From lowly(sorry) benchtop teckniction come machine builder to now the State Manager for Infomation Service for a compang with a $2billion turn over and in all States in Australia, England, Asia and America. Its been a hard road but it is there if you make it Grow...

Thu, Jan 10, 2002 John C. Bachandouris New York

Jobs out there? Where's that? I am A+ Certified and possess an MCP for Windows 98. The only job I found was a Copier Tech job at Pitney Bowes and I've been laid off since October!!

Thu, Jan 10, 2002 Susannah Denver

I have been certified since 1997 with excellent references - and unemployed for two months! Where are the jobs????

Thu, Jan 10, 2002 muiz ahmed illinois

i'm microsoft certified systems engineer for over a year now and still looking for a job. So far i have no success.

Fri, Jan 4, 2002 Anonymous Indiana

Hey Dallas I know the feeling...I also am an older type but up here in Indiana I am a contract employee to the state and with the budget being so poor I am currently out in the cold also. I am really hoping things turn the corner soon. Good Luck

Fri, Jan 4, 2002 Dallas tech Anonymous

The previous 3 comments are such a sorry lot. Thanks to Kristin McCarthy for encouragement -- I resigned from a good job just days before 911 to go with a startup. The venture failed when funding was withdrawn in the wake of 911. I'm an older tech and feel encouraged that I'll find work soon now.

Fri, Jan 4, 2002 omer Pakistan

nice to be in Uzbekistan, because there is only difference of uzbek instead of Pak

Sun, Dec 30, 2001 Anonymous Anonymous

Is it 1/1/2002 already? oh well, ...HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!!!

Sat, Dec 29, 2001 Husniddin Husniddin

Uzbekistan, Politehnikal institut computer tehnalogiyes

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