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Exams Confirmed for Developer Certifications

Microsoft acknowledges tidbits of information on three new developer exams at Professional Developer Conference in Los Angeles.

Microsoft is waiting until January 2002 to make official announcements regarding exams for its developer-based certification titles, including a new component developer certification. But Microsoft hasn't kept this information under wraps.

MCPmag.com has already detailed specific exams that are being developed; see "Developer Certifications Get Behind .NET" in News). And in unofficial confirmation that Microsoft is tacking in that direction, the company has distributed this week at its Professional Developer Conference in Los Angeles a poster entitled ".NET Developer Career Skills Roadmap." The poster matches up developer IT roles with Microsoft Press books and IT training courses and exams. The matrices show the following three exams, which are expected to be released next year:

Technology IT Role Exam Associated with Role
Smart Clients Web Application Developer 305, Developing Web Apps with the .NET Framework
Smart Clients Windows Application Developer 306, Developing Windows Apps with the .NET Framework
XML Web Services

Data Component Developer

 

310, Developing Web Services and Server Components with Visual Studio .NET
XML Web Services Business Component Developer 310, Developing Web Services and Server Components with Visual Studio .NET

Microsoft says the IT roles in the matrix shouldn't be miscontrued as the titles for new developer certifications.

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Thu, Nov 29, 2001 Anonimus Medellin

elDIABLO21 from Medellin stated that he has a great job NOW.
What does it mean? what is a great job? some ego maniac people are so selffish that they canNOT think in real important things in life. What are your priorities in life elDIABLO21?
Since you are so suspicious, how is it that you are an MCSD nad an MCDBA? Did you cheat the certification tests? because A LOT of people in Medellin does it, if that is the case .... those certifications mean NOTHING!

Thu, Nov 29, 2001 Eeraj US

MSCD or MCSE by itself will not get you a job. If you were foolish enough to listen to a training shop (and pay them money) that MCSD certification alone will get you a job, then it serves you right. Having said that, I have to agree that I have benefited many times as a result of being certified PLUS having good experience in the field. So stop whining, get some solid real-world skills and then you will get a job.

Wed, Nov 28, 2001 Marcin POLAND

Try SUN certifications, try Java. Java is COOL and ROOLESS. THAT is The FUTURE!

Tue, Nov 27, 2001 GroundZeroBoy NYC

Hello. I have one year of VB and I just lost my job. I went out and got $500 worth of VB/sql server+ Java (wrox )books and the Transenders. I've training for 5 months no little sleep. I did not finish college (no degree). Is there any hope for me? or should I give up and go back to college and work in KFC partime?

Sun, Nov 25, 2001 Hyoung KOREA

Hopefully things will get better next year...

Sat, Nov 24, 2001 Dharsi Toronto

MCSE/MCSD is just a stepping stone for your career. Most employers will look for experience period. In order for you to gain experience you will need to take up work at considerable less pay than what most MCSE/MCSD make today.

I graduated in 1983 and have been working with MS Technology exclusively. I command a high six digit salary not because I am MCSE/MCSD but becuase of my vast and wide exprience using MS technology at large entrprises.

Do not despair if you cannot get a job immediately. Be persisent.

Have you looked at international opportunities. I am have been working in the gulf area for the last five years and the exprience I gain here is enormous and it will surely help me when I move back to my home town - Toronto.

Fri, Nov 23, 2001 Jon Toronto

Jobs are hard to find now. Even you have lots of experience and Cert. When there is no jobs out there, there is no hiring... Most company frozen job hiring, so consider yourself unlucky if you are on the job market right now! Hopefully things will get better next year...

Wed, Nov 21, 2001 Paul G South Africa

I think it is very unfair to say Code writers can be found cheaply in 3rd world countries. Where I come from, we have big businesses in IT and most personnel are degreed, certified, professional, experienced and can communicate fluently (both written and spoken) in at least three languages. The certification programs are professionally run and everyone is paid well.
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Mon, Nov 19, 2001 Robert Anonymous

Wow!

I haven't looked on these forums for almost a year and now I know why. Whine, whine, whine about, "I have an MCSD, MCDBA, MCSE, blah blah blah, and I can't get a job."

If you look at the communication skills represented by some of the posts on this forum it is no wonder. You may not like what I am about to say, but you should read it anyway.

If you are not American or if you are American and cannot communicate effectively in English writing, you had better give up on your effort to get a decent paying job in this country.

Broken English and incomplete sentences won't get you anywhere. The industry needs people who can communicate with people, not code writers. Code writers can be found cheaply in 3rd world countries.

The clients I have worked with find it difficult to understand technology when you communicate clearly in English. If they have any idea you may not understand English (through your writing or speech), they will go somewhere else.

If you got your MCSD certification just to be a programmer, you wasted your time and money AND you devalued a certification I worked hard to get. If you want the certification to mean something, put something into it. Don't use brain dumps, don't disclose test information or content, over-study for the tests (you might actually learn something useful), and realize the reason you can't find a job is Y.O.U., not the certification.

Fri, Nov 16, 2001 Anonymous Anonymous

If you have MCSD,MCDBA,MCSE............but still don't have a job, that means you don't have hands-on experiences. Come on, just make every effort to gain experiences. When you get both -- certifications and experiences , you are successful at every job interview.

Fri, Nov 16, 2001 Anonymous Anonymous

If you are a fresher , beginner to work , then Certifications will make your resumes more good-looking and give you an interview chance. Certifications prove you as a person with fundamental knowledge that's what certifications give.
But for hands-on experiences, you have to put a lot of trial-and-error efforts on the field. Once you have Certifications and hands-on Experiences, you are a job-selector rather than a job-searcher !

Fri, Nov 16, 2001 Anonymous Anonymous

I found Certifications very,very useful and powerful cauz Certifications are the starting point to get a job, (maybe at the minimal salary for no experience). But if you don't have certification, that almost means you don't have the minimal basic knowledge for the field, then you don't even have a chance to get an interview.

Fri, Nov 16, 2001 Robert Williamsport

I got a good job with no experience, no certifications, and just an Associate Degree in Computer Science. That is Pennsylvania for you. The only other option employers have are the Amish! : )

Thu, Nov 15, 2001 David USA

I agree with everyone that believes that experience is must...but certifications do play a bigger role than "normal school" education. Managers, developers, Presidents that I've spoken to said that "specailizing" in certain areas are worth more than a "general" "book" knowledge of things that when placed in books are already ...not to downplay any eduacation achieved by anyone..cause I to have a degree.....but I thinkexperience and certs play a bigger role

Tue, Nov 13, 2001 Happy Guitarman Anonymous

I like Mr. Doe have more than doubled my income (beyond any salary survey I've seen) in the 2 years since my last certification - MCSD (now expired) and MCSE - and 20 years experience. I found the dual certifications invaluable to understanding the technical infrastructures supporting my code. They are not mutually exclusive as some would suggest. To be able to speak clearly to developers, customers, engineers... in their terms and really understanding both worlds is a wonderful thing.

But beyond being a technoid - you really need to be a people person to get a great job and in some cases any job. The ability to communicate, listen, understand, speak clearly, be relatively well groomed and clean all contribute to your bottom line.

Mon, Nov 12, 2001 haripat Anonymous

Guys,
Experience always counts. Certifications are nice to put on your resumes but without experience certifications are useless!

Sun, Nov 11, 2001 PJ New York

I would agree to what Joe says. If you are trying to get a job focus the resume towards the job you want. People prefer specialist & not generalist. I too have an MCSD & MCSE (no thankyou for braindumps) . I got all my experience by training people & doing projects for experience, but when I wanted a job as a developer MCSE was in small print. You highlight the MCSD & all experience related to that..

Fri, Nov 9, 2001 John Doe USA

I may be the exception to the rule, but I attained my MCSD, changed jobs, and very literally doubled my salary. It's definately been worth it to me.

Thu, Nov 8, 2001 Anonymous Anonymous

While going for the MCSE cert, I realized the courses (MOC) and tests wouldn't give me enough knowledge to hit the ground running. After talking to my instructor, he put it in perspective by saying the certification isn't one of proficiency, but one of fundamentals. Just as a PHD doesn't make a person a "good" doctor, but he/she should know enough not to kill someone.

Thu, Nov 8, 2001 MEHRDAD Anonymous

Hi-really I don't know if you want to find a solution to find a job or you want talk about your experiance ?I give my e-mail to who thinks know concept and hands on more than me espicially to that guy with 10 yrs exp,& BS -I am mcse2000 trainer and I am in this field only 2 years -nt 4.0-win2k & xp those basic things really i know ,as an experiance I design & deployed the nw win2k for more than 3 vocational schools with ad and tested all different services for 285 labs.I worked as subcontractor and now for two month i am waiting to find a job,microsoft make his partner (schools)to making money and really they don't care what you ganna do with your cert,.even inventory by microsoft shows the % of none certified who make money are %80 more than certified people,so they know what is going on-and last time I talk with ms rep, they said they want to consider more labs for student ,I guess they mean those labs that never no one ganna use outside in reall life of job activity -like ris for tokyo or ...you know what i am talking about anyway good luck .

Thu, Nov 8, 2001 Gill (MCT) Singapore

All those people above expressing themselves as jobless did not mentioned about experience at all. They did not sya " i have 4 years on ....." and i am jobless. Steve / Angelo are right by saying Certification is just the beginning. I already had 8 years of experience before i got my first MCP status. I needed it to prove i had hands-on. It shows i could start learning more from at work because i had the basics. Joe, i must agree with you. There is nothing like a REAL hard-earned MCSE/MCDBA/MCSD

Thu, Nov 8, 2001 elDIABLO21 Medellin

I'm a MCSD,MCDBA. I've got a great job now but not due to my certifications. I can't understand how can anybody be a MCSD and MCSE at the same time! this is not logical. Certifications help people to get recognition, but so many certifications sounds a little suspect.

Wed, Nov 7, 2001 Joe Texas

To any jobless, multi-cert holder out there: maybe companies don't take you seriously when looking at all the acronyms in your Resume! I mean, MCSD, MCDBA & MCSE??? What exactly do you work as anyway? IMO all these certs in one resume just take credibility away from the certification programs. Call me a cynic, but I can think of one word to replace all the acronyms: Braindump.

Wed, Nov 7, 2001 Dave Virginia

Experience first, degrees second, and certifications last. I'm an MCSD and it doesn't really mean much to me, other than having the MCSD logo on my resume. Studying for the exams didn't teach me much and taking the exams tested very little of my knowledge. I got a BS in Computer Science and have 10 years experience now, and that's what counts in an employer's eyes, your experience and your education background. Don't believe all the certification hype!

Wed, Nov 7, 2001 Ajesh Kamania Edison NJ, 732-603-9700

Certifications are part of the program. We are with Star Computer Education where a 12 hour integration on resumes, interviewing skills and job search techniques are bundled as part of the course. It helps and it pays . If you need the job then you have to be persistent in your efforts , otherwise you tend to blamen things outside you. Certification is aglobal recognition of your talent and it is accepted all over.
Call up if you need clarifications for this.

Wed, Nov 7, 2001 Andy USA

It doesn't matter how many certifications you have. If there isn't work, there aren't jobs. That's not the certifications fault. I'm more shocked that you passed the exams and couldn't figure that out. Duh!

Wed, Nov 7, 2001 Angelo Kentucky

You people seem to have misconceptions or mis-information about certifications. Certifications should only be a small portion of how you sell yourself to your clients. Certifications signify to your client that you have the minimum reqs for a job.... also certifications are not a substitute for experience. If you are jobless, you should practice your networking and interviewing skills. Also consider working for free or at a reduce rate until you gain experience.

Tue, Nov 6, 2001 Mohammed Guyana

This site is very dishonest about the significance of microsoft certs. Dishonest by being leaving out important facts (employment figures, etc.). I'm a jobless MCSD.

Tue, Oct 30, 2001 Steve Milwaukee

Ashish & Samuel, a great majority of those who have as many certifications as both of you, Teach Others, give it a thought.

Sat, Oct 27, 2001 Samuel San Francisco

I am MCSD, SCJP, MCDBA, MCSE+I. But I can't find a job. I need help.

Fri, Oct 26, 2001 Ashish India

i don't think these exams can fetch somebody a job am a mcsd,mcse and mcdba but of no use

Fri, Oct 26, 2001 Ashish India

i don't think these exams can fetch somebody a jon i am a mcsd,mcse and mcdba but of no use

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