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Windows 8: What Microsoft Isn't Telling You

Editor's Note: This blog post was written prior to the news that Microsoft's new interface would not be called "Metro." All references to "Metro" were left intact for clarity.  

Microsoft may have really messed up with their Windows 8 strategy. Its first big mistake was releasing community previews of the new OS, while barring most employees from talking about it or even admitting to its obvious existence. Release code without being able to explain it? Bad move. What messaging we did get was preliminary and off-base... and the company may pay for that. Here's what they should have told us.

It Isn't a "Metro Desktop"
The most controversial feature of Windows 8 is the so-called "Metro Desktop," a term that Microsoft never should have let pass without comment. Metro was never intended as a noun; it's an adjective, as in "the desktop with the Metro styling." And it isn't a desktop at all, obviously -- it's a dashboard, an evolution of the gadget-laden Sidebar of Windows Vista, and very close in functionality to the Dashboard view in Apple's Mac OS X. It's actually a better implementation than Apple's, because its tiles are more organized, and it also serves as an application launcher -- something Mac OS X distributes across a file folder, the LaunchPad view, and some other mechanisms.

In other words, the Metro-styled Start screen is a great idea. Its bad rep comes almost entirely from Microsoft refusing to speak about it for so long, and then not talking about it very well when they did ungag. Sure, there are some heavy restrictions on the apps that can run on this Start screen, but it's mainly made as a dashboard -- think lightweight gadgets, not full applications.

What's ironic is that the new Start screen is designed mainly to be touch-friendly -- something that's also been controversial, as the thing is practically unusable with just a mouse. Add in some keyboard shortcuts, though, and it's very slick. Start typing application names and up they pop. Hit "Windows+I" for the sidebar menu thing that took me forever to find with my mouse. Eventually, when we start using Apple-esque multi-touch trackpads with our computers (not just laptops), I suspect the new Start screen will be even nicer.

Microsoft just didn't get out in front of this one fast enough. It reminds me of the first ads I saw for Vista, which focused exclusively on the stupid "flip 3D" application-switching feature. Microsoft buried the headline there, focusing on something trivial and not communicating very well on what made Vista different. Microsoft's made that same error with the new Start screen, and the world in general has crucified them for it.

It's Business-Friendly
Windows 8 comes across as a consumer release -- so much so that a lot of businesses are disregarding it out of hand. Again, that's because Microsoft is burying the headline. In proclaiming Windows 8 as touch-friendly, etc. etc. etc., it's forgetting that 99.9999 percent of its customer base doesn't use touch-based devices. But listen to the messaging coming out of Redmond and you could easily imagine that Windows 8 just isn't something businesses need to care about.

Au contraire.

Windows 8's deeper integration with the improved DirectAccess is nothing short of brilliance. The ability to centrally manage VPN-like connection options for your users, who can simply double-click and connect, is awesome. DirectAccess finally works, is straightforward, and is something everyone should look into -- and Windows 8 really utilizes it best.

SMB 3.0, the new file-sharing protocol in Windows Server 2012, gets the best love from Windows 8. Automatic -- nay, automagic -- failover of load-balanced SMB shares means a whole new way to think about clustered file servers.

Oh, and three words: Windows To Go. Part and parcel of the enterprise edition of the product, it enables you to build a secured, encrypted (via BitLocker) corporate image of Windows 8 on a USB thumb drive. Users can pop that into any computer and get the corporate desktop right there -- and when they pop out the drive, the desktop goes away, leaving no traces on the machine. This is so cool I can barely even wrap my head around it -- yet it's a feature getting relatively little spotlight.

It's Just as Good as Windows 7
The deployment technologies, support processes, and almost all the rest of Windows 8 are astonishingly similar to Windows 7. I think, in their race to look as cool as Apple, Microsoft is making Windows 8 seem a lot more revolutionary than it is -- and I mean that in a very good way. Enterprises don't like revolution; we like evolution. Small, incremental changes we can cope with. Just for once, I'd like Windows 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3 – and Windows 8 actually feels a lot like that. It certainly exhibits about the same level of change as you get going from Apple's OS 10.7 to 10.8 -- some major cosmetic overhaul, some new concepts, but the same basic stuff at the core.

I think you'll have no issues running Windows 8 alongside Windows 7, or even skipping 7 and going straight with 8 if that's where you are in your lifecycle. You need to get the heck off of XP, that's for sure.

Yeah, the new Metro-styled Start screen is going to throw some people for a bit of a loop, but so did the Start menu when Windows 95 was introduced. They'll adapt -- they'll just whine a bit because they haven't had to adapt to any major changes since 2002 when you deployed XP the first time. And yeah, the new Metro-styled experience isn't comprehensive -- you'll find yourself dumped out of the "Metro Desktop" and into "classic" applications more often than you want, especially when you start fiddling with Control Panel stuff. That's fine. It's not as elegant or complete as an experience as we might like, but it's perfectly functional. We -- and our users --  are going to grumble about something anyway, so it might as well be that, right?

Posted by Don Jones on 10/23/2012 at 1:14 PM


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Tue, Mar 12, 2013 Ginger

I FIXED my LOUSY WINDOWS 8 METRO monster with a 4.95 program called Retro UI. It allows re-sizing of metro apps on desktop, brings back my desktop that i know and love, and stops that nasty Charm Bar from popping out every time I move my mouse or touch the screen. You can even try it free for 7 days...I bought it after trying it for an hour..I finally like my new lap top!

Wed, Mar 6, 2013 Annette

Does anyone remember Microsoft Bob? Is Windows 8 the 21st century version?

Fri, Mar 1, 2013

I'll tell you what I see. I see thousands of comments on this page and hundreds like it trashing Windows 8. (Don't forget Office 2013 and VB 2012 either, both widely despised) It never ceases to amaze me how a company with as massive a user base as Microsoft can so thoroughly and systematically shit on itself. I really shouldn't hope, but i do hope that one day.. one of it's 94,000 employees pulls their head out of their lock tight ass.

Fri, Mar 1, 2013

I'll tell you what I see. I see thousands of comments on this page and hundreds like it trashing Windows 8. (Don't forget Office 2013 and VB 2012 either, both widely despised) It never ceases to amaze me how a company with as massive a user base as Microsoft can so thoroughly and systematically shit on itself. I really shouldn't hope, but i do hope that one day.. one of it's 94,000 employees pulls their head out of their lock tight ass.

Thu, Feb 28, 2013

I believe Microsoft could not get things any more wrong than they have, but they did Windows 8 is just another app layer over windows 7 and on top of that their cloud technology has lost data for me and its been 5 days and i still don't have it back. Windows 8 is a POC ( Pile Of Cr.. ) and it's cloud storage service - utter rubbish, i will never store anything on any form of cloud service EVER again. Now the data either stays on my machine or my storage end of story.

Mon, Feb 18, 2013 Scooter Scottland

The author of the article does point out some very "cool" features of Win8. Unfortunately as a power user of computers, at an engineering job, and a lot of my companies computers running VERY EXPENSIVE applications, that are VERY LARGE, Win8 is more suited for touch pads. MS dream of one OS work for touch pads, refrigerators, the heating system of your home, and that for power users, and dedicated high end OEM computing products, is a silly dream. Its not a logical pursuit, to make the controls of a go-cart and a space shuttle the same. Period. Its counter productive in a big way. One or both of the product ends of the spectrum (touch pads, and really serious expensive installs) has to suffer to the point of market failure. It feels like kids are making these decisions at MS.

Sun, Feb 17, 2013 Victoria Olson

Forgot to mention the Mr Hand 'feature' to exit an app is a major FAIL. it inevitably will resize the app and place it to one side or the other of my screen, even if I pull straight down on it. What was wrong with a simple red X box? This OS overlay (which is all it is, an app on top of Win 7), is technology that was released way before its time.

Sun, Feb 17, 2013 Victoria Olson

So TIRED of Win 8 crashing, crashing, crashing, 4-5-6 times a day since I bought this thing last weekend (HP 2000). What a mess to get between apps, MS IE uses big, klunky windows on a top window bar, instead of tabs. Hello? It looks like a kindergardener designed it. You can accidentally open another incidence of any app, including a browser, and it appears all of your info is gone, until you figure it out and exit the redundancy. Then there's no Start menu, you have to go find Search, and Search reverts back to Win 98's 'do you want to search for an App, Files or Settings'? I don't have a touch screen on my brand new laptop but the trackpad can apparently detect breathing because it changes the screen so often and for no reason. I try to disable things like the Personal Contacts or Message app that repeats my Chats in Facebook while I'm having them in BIG BALLOONS like I can't see them in Facebook, but it won't go away. I've tried to reset my home page in IE and FF, but it keeps reverting to Bing, and I've removed any trace of a 'suggestion' that it do that. I also want no User Account password, but even tho. I've removed it several times, it does not go away. That Metro Start page with the Tiles is just goofy. It is a PITA to re-arrange Tiles, why is it difficult? Who said I wanted them in that order. What if I want my Apps on the left? What a POC Win 8. It's unfriendly, not intuitive, confusing and the author of the original article on this page must be getting a hefty check from Microsoft to say such things about Win 8.

Fri, Feb 15, 2013 Bruce Hanify Washington

Windows 8 is garbage. Goin' Mac. Not comin' back.

Fri, Feb 15, 2013

I want to move between applications, copying and pasting from one document or presentation to another, adding a picture, plugging some of it into FB while I work. Do I have to say how much I hate Windows 8? I HATE IT!!! The simplest functions are now impossible.

Fri, Feb 8, 2013 Srufing Friendly Europe

My Windows 8 history: (a) excited, lookes cool, (b) disappointed, apps mostly crash (c) excited, fixed most apps issues (d) disappointed. After ONE week, w8 does not boot any further than to a blank screen. Recovery mode is not starting, helpline is not responding, all I can do is access the hard disk remote. So I trying to safe all I can and then... I do not know - All the above is NOT a joke, but just the real life experience I have, one week after buying a very very cool looking and very expensive new touchscreen PC

Sun, Feb 3, 2013 Thomas

Mr. Ace - You are so off base that I just had to correct you. First of all, it is ILLEGAL to install mac os x on a PC. Even mentioning sites that teach you how to do so is a crime. The sites them selves are also against the law. This is illegal as it is Piracy and it violates the EULA. Second, Windows 7's only flaw that I have see so far is that it is not compatible with 16-bit applications (but neither was vista or XP), and it (along with every version of windows) can't use 4 GB of ram on a 32 bit system. That said, Windows 8 is largely incompatible with a lot of software, and Mac OS X is just a specialized version of Linux, which like linux is largely incompatible with a lot of software. Windows 7 (which is what my brand new alienware came with, instead of windows 8) IS compatible with almost everything. Also, NO less than 1% of businesses (and yes that includes studios in Hollywood) use iMacs or macbooks because Macs are expensive and largely incompatible. SQL for example WON'T run on Mac. But its used for 60 - 70 % of businesses. Also developing on a mac is a royal pain in the rear.

Sun, Feb 3, 2013 Mr. Ace

I started on windows back in 1995, i started on osx in 2010. The first release of W95 was unstable, the first release of W98 was more than a nightmare, the first release of XP was the same screw up, windows Vista is the worst version in history, and 7 is the best of all so far, again not without flaws. The first release OSX 1.6 was flawless, 1.7 flawless and 10.8 also flawless. Even older ones like tiger and panther and Lion were perfect. What does that tell you? Apple are proud of what they give the all tough it's not cheap but expansive.every major movie editor, recording studio, top photo companies, and even massive financial companies have apple computers... This not a battle anymore, Windows is beyond the point of fucked up, and everyone who diggs windows needs to desperately go see a shrink. So far EVERYONE is complaining about windows, ever since the first version of every windows release. Why worry about windows if you can rather get the OSX operating system. And oh for those who don't know yet, you don't even need to buy a apple tower anymore to have osx. Go buy a regular pc, on you can afford, and simply pay $29 for osx instead of $199 for a upgrade to windows 8 only... Microsoft can kiss my ass! More info: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-install-mac-os-x-on-a-pc-without-using-a-mac/

Sun, Feb 3, 2013 Lynn

I just upgraded from XP to Windows 8, and I can't open any of my old word or excel files. What is the fix for this?

Fri, Feb 1, 2013 Steve

I just recently upgraded from XP on my home PC (got Win7 at work) and find its really a breath of fresh air. Everything works, device drivers programs etc. And after just a little bit of tweaking was able to get the Start screen customized so it makes life a lot easier. And I'm looking forward to many good years of Win8 as at the moment I have absolutely nothing to complain about. I love it.

Fri, Feb 1, 2013 Anthony

I am a Senior Web developer. I have heard rumours about W8 not being reliable. Should listen to rumours, first week on windows 8 and all browsers dont function properly, websites not loading properly, configurations for proxies are messed up and way too complicated than previous versions. well done Microsoft you screwed us all

Thu, Jan 31, 2013 John

I really screwed up, I bought a new laptop with windows 8 on board. You cannot get to the legacy BIOS to change the boot order that will be utilized. Can't recognize USB flash drive and on and on. 8 is just a piece of CRAP. I can't even install Linux because of it's configuration. And how would it ever recognize a recovery disk in the DVD drive. I have wasted more time than the computer is worth. I should have researched this more before I went with Windows 8, but who would ever expected to get into such a royal mess.

Thu, Jan 31, 2013 DStahl Oregon

About Win-To-Go you wrote, " This is so cool I can barely even wrap my head around it." Linux has done this for years, silly. I carry Ubuntu on an external HDD and boot it from any USB-boot enabled machine. That way I can go online with no virus worries, no malware worries, and all my files and software packages are right with me. You know, MS tends to throw off 2 bad OS for each good one. XP was good, Millennium and Vista were bad. Win 7 is good. Win 8 is another Vista.

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 Ramin

I can only think that most of these people who complain about the new interface, are just some oldies who can't stand anything different from what they are used to and they are mad at those who have have decided to make changes to what they are used to. Sorry, but the world is constantly changing despite your consent. Windows 8's interface is not really bad at all and I think it is overall even better than old Windows (even for desktops with mouse/keyboard).

Tue, Jan 29, 2013 SRK

Personally I'm starting to loathe Windows 8. Its not the odd ball user interface but the bugs that are driving me mad. This system is fundamentally not very stable and even MS's own software often behaves badly when installed on it. Office 2007 doesn't really work at all. Complete joke.

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 Rauch

look at all those fucktards complaining.. and there is one guy who speaks about the "cost of training to use windows 8" ? come on people, how retarded do you need to be to need TRAINING for a silly WINDOWS OS :))) i for one don't use the desktop at all, i do, however use the file manager in some cases, in all the rest, i've put everything i need in the metro UI...

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 Rauch

look at all those fucktards complaining.. and there is one guy who speaks about the "cost of training to use windows 8" ? come on people, how retarded do you need to be to need TRAINING for a silly WINDOWS OS :))) i for one don't use the desktop at all, i do, however use the file manager in some cases, in all the rest, i've put everything i need in the metro UI...

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Mon, Jan 28, 2013 Mike Auckland, New Zealand

Windows 8 sucks. Period. After getting frustrated with Remote Desktop not working properly, I did the unthinkable and upgraded to Windows 8 Pro (with DVDs). But I did the usual thing and first wiped my disk. Bad mistake. It took Microsoft themselves 4 hours doing a remote session to my brand new laptop to sort this out - for a simple thing like re-installing a new operating system on a new machine. What a waste of everyone's time. .... Back to the UI (singular or plural with 8 ?): I now have to remember the old hot-keys from years ago...just as I got used to using the mouse. And then when you move the mouse to an application corner you are bound to open up some irritating Windows panel. And when you want them actually, you end up swiping twice or thrice times before they appear.... No, this is the worst OS ever!!! Microsoft should stop treating the average user like a moron and build on the existing user experience. Don't fill my world with useless rubbish. Now is the time to switch to Linux once and for all !!!

Mon, Jan 28, 2013 Rory Gauteng, South Africa

When Win95 came out MS bragged about how quickly a new user would be able to find an application. The interface was intuitive and MS had stayed with that winning philosophy, till now. Suddenly nothing makes sense and is not intuitive at all. Feels like the "Metro" interface has been dropped on top of the operating system at the last minute to try and win over tablet users. Very desperate MS. If one runs an office application from "Metro" it drops one to the desktop. Once finished with the application it does not take one back to "Metro". One now has to navigate back and start the next application. Give us the ability to choose to run "Metro" or not. (Bet a service pack will be out soon which will give users the "Start" button again)

Sun, Jan 27, 2013

This totally blows... Period!

Sun, Jan 27, 2013

Really WTF! I hate this thing it used to start fast and then my Norton account left and I tried to find a good site I couldn't find one. And now they want me to sign up for a Microsoft Account... Come On Really? I hate this and I think Microsoft can take their windows 8 idea and shove it where the Sun doesn't shine.

Sat, Jan 26, 2013 John El Los Angeles

As I sit cursing at my month-old workstation sporting Windows 8, the old "there'll be some whining but they'll adapt" is a really offensive attitude to have towards one's user base. It's one thing when you have to rework the internals to make a more stable OS, but to adopt that attitude in defense of an interface that was inspired by the McDonald's cash register for illiterates and some fisher price busy box toy, is entirely unacceptable, Those of us who are forced to use these toys to earn a living in far more banal settings than tech journalism and "next great thing" punditry are not amused.

Fri, Jan 25, 2013 Cleave South Central Alabama

It's not the big stuff, it's the little stuff that's pissing everyone off. Who does MS think's want's to buy a new machine on which the dvd player doesn't work. Why, after all this time is there no macro to turn on all services needed to run anything, let alone the internet browser. People are buying Mac's because everything that's on it work's. MS really doesn't have enough common sense to put a simple dvd decoder in the OS?????? The PC manufacturers share the blame. Who do they think want's to buy a new machine on which anything does not work. Why are PC makers putting HDMI and VGA port's on PC's, and leaving off the firewire port's?????? Win 8 doesn't even have firewire drivers. It's the little stuff. Why don't all external drives work, including Dynamic drives on a new machine?????? That's the real reason people are buying Mac's, everything on it works and everything you plug into it works, Period. How can MS or the PC makers, in this economy, suggest you purchase a dvd decoder to anyone who has just purchased a brand new machine?????? This is the real reason why MS and the PC manufactures are losing. The little stuff. No one want's to read a forum, nor should they have to. This world is not full of techno geeks. Those college students cuss and fuss, then their parent's buy them a Mac, after having bought the PC to begin with. And they never go back. Neither do their parents. By the way, they sell the PC in question for less than half of what it's worth, as is the case with the PC I'm using to type these truth's. They may not like how it works, but everything on it or attached to it works. That's why they never go back. MS and the PC manufactures aren't loosing market share, they're loosing the heart's, minds, bodies and souls of the people they expect to keep them in business. Once that threshold of the general population is reached, how long do you think it will take IT to catch up?????? You do here me talking to you, don't you uncle Billy?????? Windows is the superior OS, but it's way past the time for Microsoft and the PC manufactures to get their asses off their shoulders and their ego's out of their work!!!!!! You do here me talking to you, don't you uncle Billy??????

Thu, Jan 24, 2013 Joe SoCal

"No one is making anyone switch to windows 8." But they are. I need a new desktop and they all come loaded with Win 8. I can "downgrade" to Win 7 by shelling out 200 bucks for single-computer license. Maybe I can ferret out a "grampa box" with 7 on it, will take some effort. I'll either get an Apple (which I hate) or buy the Win 8 and install Linux. I thought there was some legal precident that sellers had to allow you a choice of OS? Anyway, the arrogance of both MS and Apple pisses me off. A curse on both their houses.

Wed, Jan 23, 2013 planet earth

vista, 7 , 8 , mac and apple none of the crap is as good as ibm oses of the 1970s - how in hell did we due dis

Tue, Jan 22, 2013 Terry NC

Windows 8 disabled my auto updates in Quicken 2013. The print screen function doesn't work. There are other issues and do not understand how to fix them.

Mon, Jan 21, 2013 IT Architect Michigan

We've experimented with the betas for a ~year, and me personally on my touch screen laptop the I bought specifically for Windows 8. It is my default environment. Of our customers, we got a little gutsy and rolled out two running in a corporate setting today with the promise that we would retro them for free if they didn't like them. The jury is still out at the moment, but so far so good. However, we did add using Classic Shell and Skip Metro Suite. The most attractive aspect of Windows 8 is the price of upgrades through 1/31/2013. The Metro interface has many disadvantages inside corporate America. Here are a few. 1. In the age of multiple monitors, and resizable windowed apps, full screen apps are 80's mainframe stuff. 2. The menu screen has a flat structure. That's like doing away with sub-directories and putting all of the application files in the root of the drive. They talk about categories but there is no such thing. 3. The manifest is restricts the colors to so few that it makes it impossible to have a 3D appearance like Windows 7 and earlier. Without it, the placement of objects on screen is not as easy to interpret. It makes it more difficult to see dialog boxes on top windows, and it's often difficult to determine which is the scroll bar and which is the slider. This is very much like the 80's terminals on mainframes. \4. There are Windows and and Metro apps servicing the various file extension types. Double-clicking a file could yank you into the Metro environment. One must understand what they are doing and reassign all of the default apps in control panel. 5. Metro apps have no methods to communicate with each other as they do in the Windows environment. 6. Metro isn't a dashboard, it's a local web environment with its own API. It is Windows 8's default environment with applets that are the new defaults for many file extensions, and Microsoft. 7. Windows 8 is about SkyDrive, free E-Mail, using online versions of Microsoft Applications like Office 365. In fact, they give you 7 gigabytes of free space on their servers. They'll even check all of your URLs to make sure you are browsing safely. In fact, you can't turn it off unless you want to see a nag screen every time to you start IE. You can't do a clean install of Windows 8 without setting up at least a bogus Microsoft account. The default location to save information is Microsoft's servers. The bottom line is Microsoft is using their operating system dominance to recover from missing the potential of the web until they were left in the dust. Profiling you for profit is a business model Microsoft learned from Google. They will sell Windows 8 for whatever it takes to get you to use it, just like Google gives away Chrome, and paid to be Firefox's default search engine. Google believes the future will be Software as a Service (SaaS) and the user's operating system will be the web. Microsoft is now a believer and moving their apps to the web.

Sun, Jan 20, 2013

Windows 8 is good news for Linux! It's easy to see why more and more people, large corporations and government departments are changing to Linux - not to mention the massive cost savings and gteatly enhanced security!

Sun, Jan 20, 2013 GABRIEL SHARP Pennsylvania

I've been a windows user for 20 years, now that windows 8 is out, I gave it a good breaking in period (about a month). After that, I installed WUBI (Ubuntu linux that runs on an NTFS partition /w dual boot -- so you can have Windows AND Linux on one drive, on partition). After a Month of WUBI, I have thrown in the towel, Windows is no more for me, I just started installing Ubuntu Linux on ALL 5 of my servers and my 2 workstations. LOVE IT... astonishing how far theyve come from the good old days, and all the windows programs that I normally use (FL Studio 10, Texture Maker, Dreamweaver, Bryce, etc) All run (some even faster) on linux anyway. ONE EARLIER POST claimed that it is way slow and way to hard and thats why it's free, no you d****ss it's not.... so unless you are a complete idiot, Ubuntu is quite easy to use even for someone like me who never used linux but maybe once for a week 10 years ago and thats it, I have already learned a TON, and like they say, LEARNING UBUNTU LINUX IS FUN... it sounds stupid but it really is a great and fresh change and quite exciting and I recommend it to anyone (all my friends have switched as well...) THANKS MICROSOFT FOR GIVING ME THAT PUSH!!!

Fri, Jan 18, 2013

I HATED Win8 for the first couple hours, until I figured out that it's got a desktop just like Win7 and the Windows button is all you need to get from the desktop to the dashboard and back. Then I understood: There's virtually no difference between it and Win7 except it starts way faster and I've yet to see it even lock up much less crash. Honestly, I loved Win7 but never used the start menu much as I put everything on the taskbar a la OSX dock. The resistance to the literally tiny amounts of change in workflow Win8 represents from the geeks in here is honestly hilarious. Maybe more like stunning. The nature of technology today is constant change. You'd think this blog was for the AARP and all the respondents were discussing a change to their freaking Medicare. Get used to it you pathetic bunch of whiners. Life IS change. And technology is change at light speed. Embrace it like you should nerd herd.

Sun, Jan 13, 2013 christian

Installed and tested it, to be honest simply changing programs and work with several programs at the same time is a headache to be coming. If i want to have a 15 kg heavy smartphone i will install windows 8 on my computer. If windows go in this direction more i will go to linux for good and never come back.

Sat, Jan 12, 2013 Pomme

I LOVE Windows 8 !!! ....because I'm an Apple shareholder! :-) Windows 8 will hasten the demise of the PC and boost Apple's sales enormously! Thank you Mr. Ballmer! You duh man!

Sat, Jan 12, 2013 mary

Windows 8 is rubbish - my email has stopped working,nothing runs on Windows 8 . I have to go to the Desktop to run videos. Crazy selling something that is not really ready for use. No add contacts button on email not easy to see old emails. But then I cannot see new ones.

Sat, Jan 12, 2013 Zeeland Michigan

I despise Windows eight!!! I am a grad student and pretty computer literate, but this is ridiculous! Nothing has worked properly without some sort of tweaking from me or someone else. Every piece of software or equipment I have purchased (such as a web cam) is not compatible with Windows 8 so I've got to download extra crap to make it work - somewhat...because every application still will not work with Windows 8! Now, I can not print from word - HP computer to HP printer - imagine that I bought a new computer to make my life easier and instead it has just caused grief! If someone asks you if you want Windows 8 - Run far and Run FAST!

Thu, Jan 10, 2013 anon

how much are they paying you to say all this bull? or are you actualy that smart

Mon, Dec 31, 2012

I bought Win7 to install on my Apple iMac cuz I was so pissed with Apple. I didn't seem to mind Win7 except it doesn't work fully working in Boot Camp. These manufacturers' of our hardware, software, and dreams are both m*f*c**rs. Apple hardware and software work awesome together, but there isn't much in way of third party software out there for Mac so you are stuck. iCloud is a friggin joke. So is iTunes, iWork, iLife, especially iPhoto. Mac in the last 2 years has taken away the power of choice in how i want my computing experience to be and they control it all. Can't even do simple tasks like delete identical songs in iTunes. The option isn't there any longer. So it's the consumer that has to send the message. Maybe we aren't loud enough given PC has such a majority marketshare in the business world and Mac in the Creative Arts world, but they both make me want to puke and throw out any computing device I have and go back to a pen, paper and a telephone. And they think they are just making things simpler for us no-minds. Yeah, simpler if you're a complete idiot who can't configure shit and need such a simple and freedom-limiting device that you are happy with the crap silicone they are pumping out these days. And for those people who write about their love life, GET A FUCKIN LIFE PERIOD.

Mon, Dec 31, 2012 ron

i hate windows 8..i have 5 desktop computers, and i will promise you it will never , ever see them..this is the first operating system from microsoft that i have absolutely no excitement about trying..i did try every version before..what was microsoft thinking..i would get out the pink slips and say bye to those that wanted windows 8 for desktops

Sat, Dec 29, 2012 Mark Indiana

I have to disagree. After having worked in the computer field as a system engineer and tech for over 30 years I see Microsoft re-designing Windows 8 without Metro ASAP if they want to actually sell software. When a computer comes in with Windows 8 I replace it for 7 every time. Windows 8's Metro interface is a joke and about as stupid a stunt as any company could pull. The majority of people cheer new versions of Windows but this piece of crap should have been shot down when it was first proposed. Sorry Microsoft is still in business if this is the kind of garbage they're going to start pumping out onto the masses. They should just pump it into the sewer because that's where it belongs!

Sat, Dec 29, 2012 Mac

Google "ex7forW8" Pssssft. Just use windows 7 dork.

Sat, Dec 29, 2012 Micky

Oh all I need is another program to give me a start button and make it look like windows 7. cool deal. how about just use windows 7? that's a fine idea too. no extra apps needed :) If the future is needing additional apps to make it look like past windows, then i don't think we got much of a future.

Sat, Dec 29, 2012 Steve Salem, Oregon

I have no problems with Windows 8 sure there were some things to get up to speed on but other than that I like it....computer's running great and I'm enjoying some of the apps from the app store, once you know your way around it's pretty simple to use.

Fri, Dec 28, 2012 Amrik Walsall, UK

Google "ex7forW8", it's a small program that with a click of the mouse, hides metro in windows 8 and gives you a start button!

Fri, Dec 28, 2012 Bill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkN_k0jl2Wk Need I say more?

Fri, Dec 28, 2012

I checked out winblowz 8. Par for the course for Microsoft. Ill stick with XP for windows applications, they still run better on XP. Use Linux instead for servers and everyday use for applications that do not require the Windows API. Far less of a headache and its not a resource hog and you have better security without big brother watching over your shoulder. Not to mention 99% of Linux software is free and works better then windows software. Just my opinion I could be wrong... But I doubt it.

Fri, Dec 28, 2012 sean NZ

Have upgraded to Win 8 and while I think its OK far from impressed by Mircosoft's arm twisting policy of compelling you to create a Microsoft account to use a good number of its features. Seriously thinking of moving to Ubuntu.

Thu, Dec 27, 2012

I love that I paid $15 to upgrade to Win8 and now paid $5 for a third party app to get my Start button back. Only Microsoft would create a touchscreen interface that works on a desktop well only if you learn a handful of Windows-KeyStroke commands. Really Microsoft? You took us back to 1991? There's absolutely no way this crap passed usability testing. I stay away from the Metro UI completely and life is just fine.

Wed, Dec 26, 2012 Brett Husebye

I am quite displeased with Windows 8 as it stands. T.he fact that I cannot get in touch with their support makes me even more angry. I need my password reset so I can go about fixing this POS operating system. Its been awhile since I used my Windows ID for anything. I used the reset password, I also used the send me a text feature for a single use password and I still have no password. Microsoft is using Windows 8 to do to us what Apple did with their IOS. I had to shut my drivers down to get this thing to load then it blew OFFICE and all my programs away. Just disappointing.

Sat, Dec 22, 2012 Peter Galaga

Another paid M$ lover.. How much money did they pay you to try to write this so so good review.. THE PRODUCT PUT MICROSOFT TO SHAME... TIME TO BRING OUT VERSION 9 or die is their ashes.

Sat, Dec 22, 2012 Markg

Microsoft Windows 8 should have had an option on first start so a user can choose primary use. Lets just make this option "Mobile Touch Pad Computing" or " Desktop Office Computing". This would have been all that is needed to satisfy most typical computing environments. Lets face 99% of computing is in the business sector with PC that do not have touch screens. Just my two-cents before taxes.

Thu, Dec 20, 2012 Lee

For the people that complain that there is no Start please drag your mouse all the way down on the left hand corner and click. And when the Start pops up, please use it or go to the top left corner and click on what you were previously doing... Now, what i am really concerned with is the requirement to have a Microsoft account in order to get a lot of functionality (store, modern apps, syncing, etc..). What about the folks that do not like that? And what do you think my CIO would say about all of our users getting Microsoft accounts and syncing? I thionk not....

Wed, Dec 19, 2012 John Connor UK

I've been using Windows Server 2012 which also has the GUI 'Metro' style desktop. It's taken me a while to get used to it as I was brought up on the original Windows-style NT/2k/2k3 etc servers up to 2008R2 including every incarnation of Windows desktop since version 2. Yes guys, I'm that old! Having used it for the past few weeks I'm actually starting to love it. Sure, it's different and finding your way around is a bit of a pain (when you've got users screaming at you to sort out their issues while you're trying to stay focused on dealing with a new server OS AND a new GUI - let's just say my alcohol intake has increased substantially!) but, apart from a few minor niggles about consistency in the screen layout between various installed screens, this is a faster and easier to use product than pretty much anything since XP.

Network admins HATE change. We loath it as it means our beloved stable and secure servers that we've spent weeks and months pouring love and time into then nuture and stroke to create the perfect network, are going to be thrown into confusion and disarray. I'm not just talking about Microsoft here but any server OS. I look after Linux servers too and I can assure you I wish they had the same GUI's as MS servers do. And, I thought I would never hear myself say this, the same stability.

Apart from the mess that was called Vista, this is a good change and one which shows MS is moving forward. I recommend it.

Mon, Dec 17, 2012

go figure the guy in charge of windows 8 got canned!

Mon, Dec 17, 2012 David Texas

I have been running Windows 8 for about a month. Honestly, it is pretty similar to 7 once you figure out where everything is, which does not take very long. How hard is it to press "windows key + d" to get to the desktop?? I like the start screen because I can check email, weather, headlines in a brief glance, can type and send emails from the start screen app, and can launch programs from it. It's similar to the taskbar, really. I used apple for a long time, because OSX was very user friendly. But I got tired of paying a premium for subpar hardware. I feel that Windows 8 very closely mirrors the simplicity of OSX.

Sat, Dec 15, 2012

Boy these linux os systems are godawful is there an easier way to open downloaded files and things like that? there's waaay too many steps just to open files or whatever the linux guys call them (garbage?) real hassle and waaay super slow i guess that's why they're are free or cheap and terrible support no help there at all.

Sat, Dec 15, 2012 Danielle

This website is the only one I've ever found that deals with people pleasantly, openly, and promptly. I really have to hand it to you - you taught me how to deal with my impatient nature when it comes to love matters - and that's no easy task for anyone! Dr. Lee is one of the most gifted best-kept secrets I have ever known. I can think of several well known so-called psychics or whatever that he could easily eclipse with his knowledge and wisdom. I truly believe he is a treasure, and I will never put my love life on the line again or do the stupid things I used to do because he taught me the importance of truth and total love, and what that really means. You are the best Dr. Lee of Ancientfathersandmothers@gmail.com

Fri, Dec 14, 2012 Mark

Once MS concedes and puts a Start button/menu on the Desktop, most of the grumbling will cease. Then users will get back their Win7 interface and a nifty dashboard too. I run Win8Pro on a home built box with just an i3 processor and no cards in the bus, and the performance is superb. I use the Desktop for Work and the Metro-styled Dashboard for Play. No complaints other than the lack of some good tutorials to help get me over the learning curve hump. As for the whiners and bashers - it's just background noise from people that complain regardles, or others the Apple drones.

Thu, Dec 13, 2012 innn mainz,germany

I have to tell that I've tried the consumer preview in the summer and found it to be unbearable, way to many bugs and novelties that were not by that time documented, but now I have the 8 installed on a desktop and a laptop after walking through hell with the previous edition the 7 when I tried to use my newly acquired multifunctional printer and they the 7 and the printer didn't like each other--sth to do with the power management , , any printing job staying in the spooler and only way to get a print was to restart the mighty 7 or restart the spooler, spent time with support on telephone, emails, sevenforums support looking etc. Anyway that OS should die at least in my memory as soon as possible. I wanted to go back at XP --I totally feel for any other that wanted the same--but the my hardware gets no support for that anymore from manufacturers and completely disregarding any previous experience of 8 and all I've read about it I tried it fearing I have to go back to the shop to change the printer. After installing the OS I had the WOW of seeing taht my printer has builtin driver in windows 8 and without the bloatware and the printer actually prints with no fuss at all. After 3 days of using this operating system cosnatntly on laptop and desktop , configuring it to my liking and all I have to say is that I am satisfied I have not installed any drivers , I do not plan to, ever, on 7 any driver I had to install had like hundred of megabytes with the system being itself a lot of gigabyte. Give it a try your experience could prove as well satisfying. I do not own a windows phone , actually I do not own a smartphone, Metro inetrface stays not in my face , I do not use tweaks like classic start , and others, y sistem gets only teh usual autohotkey keyboard shortcuts , I understand shortcuts in windows explorer, i understand UAC , I do not feel any need to disable, I do not install third party antivirus,and this way I can hope for long stability, I do not often use photos, movies, mail and other metro apps now excuse me for this long message, to conclude this OS is for more than OK, more than 7 and XP the other two I ' ve tried tschüss

Wed, Dec 12, 2012 Bill - Technical Coordinator South Central Missouri School

I have had Win 8 Pro as an upgrade with the free Media Center Download for about 2 weeks. I have customized the task-bar and added Classic Shell (free download) Start menu. I generally boot into the desktop and bypass the Start Metro Interface. All of my laptop devices work in Windows 8 and all of the programs I had installed under Windows 7 Pro work as well. So far the performance has been very good and moving from program to program is quite smooth. The IE 10 Browser has solved problems for me at the School were I work with using GMail which is the Schools EMail of choice. With IE 8 and 9 there were issues responding to emails. I do not use the Metro Tiles to run apps unless it is to open my reading apps or check the weather or do a quick Google search. I do use the Kindle app and one available for the You Version Bible, they both work to my satisfaction from the Metro screen. Boot up time is shorter than I had with windows 7, but the connecting time once booted is no faster. I believe that Microsoft needs to offer a Start Button as an add on that is similar to the Windows 7 Start Menu. Like others I do see an issue with the size of the tiles as I am not blind yet and they could by default be smaller on the start screen. Yes, you can get to a list of all the applications by right clicking on the Start screen and click a second "All Apps" button and there they are. For a Technical Coordinator this is two steps two many for production. Alas, I go for the desktop right away and side step that Start Screen. I do think that Microsoft made a good move by utilizing Server 2012 integrating ability with the cloud and mobile devices. Fail-over protection is important when it comes to files and cloud storage. I hope that they will continue to improve the ability of Metro apps so that mobile devices will have more integration with business applications. The learning curve is tough at times and progress is hard to see, but I do think that Microsoft will come through with some good updates in the future to make this work. It's obvious that they have a lot of people watching what they will do, just look at the comments here in the blog!

Wed, Dec 12, 2012

Agreed if they were making a better product they could have kept a 7 or vista xp interface as an option. We use computers as tools and do nott like having to learn a new interface with each iteration.

Tue, Dec 11, 2012 Stic NZ

Let's start here...I HATE apple, i despise their products and the way it's all so metrosexual and tween... I also thought Vista was a joke, and it got replaced with XP (not because i'm a Luddite, but simply because it actually works)...later we were given Win7...another bad joke, but...that's ok, just wipe it and load XP...much better... Now, i have a pretty new machine (desktop PC) and it has XP pro on it because, so far, nothing has come along with is any better (for me)... Now, with XP support soon to be gone, it's Vista (i don't think so...), Win7 (as if...), or Win 8 (you know, the one that i have already, against my wishes, on my XBOX console which i no longer use because it's simply awful!)... I guess Apple is looking better and better every day...

Tue, Dec 11, 2012

Lol too many fanboys defending a company...so sad. Windows 8 sucks big for desktops and most of the people think that way...lucky of us. You can't easily have multiple windows open simultaneously. Even internet browsers can use multiple windows...I better stay with Windows 7 or move to Linux like most of my friends, but sure I will not move to Window 8 ever neither anyone I know.

Mon, Dec 10, 2012

How is it that the interface inhibits efficiency? I have been using windows 8 for a couple of weeks now and I am finding it more efficient to use than Windows 7 was. Esspecially when it comes to configuring your system. Theres no need anymore to click start then click the search text field and start typing to find a setting that's hidden away in the deep corners of the control panel. All i need to do is right click in the bottom right corner and you have all the configuration you need. You get command prompt (admin), computer management, PC info etc etc. right in the menu. The charms create consistency across all 3rd party apps. No more having to learn somebodies poorly designed interface to find settings. The system itself is more stable and faster than Windows 7. People need to stop with 'the sky is falling attitude' and be a bit more realistic and rational. Take the time to sit down and learn it (it takes about 10 minutes) because from what I've read Microsoft is not backing down on their new UI anytime soon.

Mon, Dec 10, 2012 Dylan Florida

You guys bitching about it are fucking whiners. Yeah it takes about a day of getting used to, but its very simple to use and works well, granted there are a good few bugs that need fixing. But that's how everything new always is. The only bad thing is having to go to the desktop for a few programs, but its no big deal. So quit all your bitching and go back to 7 if you're butthurt that badly. 8 is fun to customize and whatnot. Also, its only 40 bucks if you download it, no reason to spend 70 like some idiots do. :)

Sun, Dec 9, 2012 Michael ohio

Love Windows 8 all you want folks, i am running a compaq 2.4ghz cpu, and its well within the requirements of windows 8 except the damn NX PAE shit, I don't know why Microsoft would even do such a stupid thing, #1 Lot of pcs (32-bit) cannot address no more then 4 gigs of ram, now comes along this Damn NX and PAE that is suppose to address more then 4 gigs of ram, what the hell is going with this crap? Would people make up their mind with pcs, do 32-bit cpu support more then 4 gigs of ram or the hell they don't? That is bunch of shit!! Windows 7 will be my final os for this pc and i don't plan on getting a new pc for a long time, So microsoft do me a favor, take windows 8 and shove it up where the sun don't shine, a 32-bit cpu is what it is, don't need that extra shit, like PAE & NX that i never heard of til now!!! What a bunch of shit!!!

Sun, Dec 9, 2012 Michael ohio

Love Windows 8 all you want folks, i am running a compaq 2.4ghz cpu, and its well within the requirements of windows 8 except the damn NX PAE shit, I don't know why Microsoft would even do such a stupid thing, #1 Lot of pcs (32-bit) cannot address no more then 4 gigs of ram, now comes along this Damn NX and PAE that is suppose to address more then 4 gigs of ram, what the hell is going with this crap? Would people make up their mind with pcs, do 32-bit cpu support more then 4 gigs of ram or the hell they don't? That is bunch of shit!! Windows 7 will be my final os for this pc and i don't plan on getting a new pc for a long time, So microsoft do me a favor, take windows 8 and shove it up where the sun don't shine, a 32-bit cpu is what it is, don't need that extra shit, like PAE & NX that i never heard of til now!!! What a bunch of shit!!!

Sun, Dec 9, 2012 Baxter somewhere over the rainbow

It's all how you look at it. Windows 8 has some good features. Think about this, what would you do if they kept Windows 7 around? It's getting old and dated, so what would you do? Huh huh huh? That's what I thought....owned

Sat, Dec 8, 2012 george KY

woah!!!! Microsoft missed the mark this time....ever since Vista Microsoft has been in a downward spiral....the very best OS they offered was XP and, now no updates for that one gezzzzzzzz....Ive never purchased a Mac, never felt the need for one till now, till this terrible, terrible (cant say that enough)..Windows 8....I HATE WINDOWS 8.........prob. wont be buying and new Microsoft systems....at least till they get their act together

Sat, Dec 8, 2012 B. Calvin Saul Northern Idaho

The Metro-style interface is such a disappointment. It seems so childish and better suited to 20 years ago. Apps are fine for weather and such, but not for productive efforts. The search is not hierarchical. The desktop is a 32bit environment, despite the 64bit hardware and OS - test it before you comment, please. I would have thought that some testing or trial groups would have been employed, but perhaps that is naïve and optimistic. Such a hideous skin -- no improvement over Aero.

Fri, Dec 7, 2012

i can't turn bouncy keys off

Wed, Dec 5, 2012 Michael OHIo

I am not happy with windows 8, number 1 my pc does not meet the requirements of windows 8 because of the stupid nx, amx garbage that windows 8 is demanding, that is bunch of garbage Stupid microsoft making windows 8 so it won't install on alot pcs becasue of the nx, I can't see throwing a perfectly working computer in the garbage because of damn microsoft, I am sure i am not the only one with the problem, windows 8 will get alot of publicity like windows vista did. Windows 8 is total garbage. Why the hell even make a 32-bit version of the damn os, if the damn computer won't even support the nx crap!!! Windows 8 is bunch of crap!!!

Wed, Dec 5, 2012 CPU Maker

I'm a little pissed that I got my brand new laptop with quad core i7, 8gb DDR3 and a 1TB HD...and Windows 8 Core. For ME, the upgrade to Windows 8 Pro is $69. If I had got my days old laptop with Windows 7 instead, I would only pay $14.95. If I wanted Windows 8 Pro, I should have got my expensive new laptop with Windows 7. Instead, I paid top dollar and now need to shell out another $69. What crap.

Wed, Dec 5, 2012 Joan d'Arc At the Stake

When reading the comments you can just feel the love. There is no equivocating. What is Windows 8? Certainly not an evolution, nor a revolution for the personal computer. Perhaps Balmer will follow Sinofsky out of the door?

Tue, Dec 4, 2012 Jesse Ventura Somewhere in Mexico

It's all about lies, corruption, payoffs. Those who give up freedom for safety deserve neither. Thomas Jefferson said that. I have no problem with Windows 8 I really don't, it's not half bad. I been using it and learning it with no problems. You think Microsoft want to transform the modern pc into the tablet? That's the conspiracy now isn't it? I don't think that is true. I think they are just changing with the times as the pc is much more today than it was back when we were all using Windows 98. I think some of you have a real problem with Windows 8 it seems, well I don't mind it. Like I said I'm learning it and getting to the bottom of it and it's not to bad. Not bad at all, I like some of its features and the music maker app is great, in fact we are using it for next season's conspiracy theory show. You think Windows 8 is bad? Think again......

Mon, Dec 3, 2012 Andrew USA-CT

The real question is why wouldn't the idiots at Microsoft offer 4 or even 5 different menu systems to choose from? They did this with their Office programs too. Forced you to accept their new point and click way when many of us were very happy using alt key strokes instead of the mouse. These guys are typical liberals make everyone do things their way instead of offering the customer choices to do it the way they like.

Mon, Dec 3, 2012 andrew USA-CT

I hate the 8 menu, and for 4.99 I got the start8 menu program. It makes it like the windows 7 menu but you still have all the 8 menus too. Do yourself a favor and get it. There are free versions too out there, but this one is the one I like for the low cost it's worth it.

Mon, Dec 3, 2012 Robert Canada

I have just purchased a new PC (preloaded with Windows 8) and I have to say that my experience with this OS is not very favorable (I am being kind). I find is very clumsy to work with and my legacy media has no sound available (games, movies). Had I know, I would have never decided to try Windows 8 and am seriously considering buying a copy of another OS (Vista perhaps) and ditching Windows 8. This has definitely soured by experience with Microsoft.

Mon, Dec 3, 2012 Mac

Windows 8 Windows 8 you're everything that I hate that I hate, my ahole feels the gape feels the gape. If I wanted a smartphone app on my laptop then I would call out to Windows 8 Windows 8... I don't really want you though because I already have an Android phone with similar features to Windows 8 Windows 8 oh what a shame that you ruin nice new laptops with your Windows 8 Windows 8, an upgrade is buying the Windows 7 Software so I no longer have to use Windows 8 yeah Windows 8.... We could have been really good friends on a planet far far away where everyone loves and uses Windows 8 yeah Windows 8, but on planet earth I hate windows 8 yeah windows 8, would rather do nothing more than Masterbait all day then to be forced to use Windows 8 windows 8 you make me hate make me hate. Come on Windows 8 please go back to windows 7. Upgrade windows 7 or even Vista, but please windows 8 go away.

Mon, Dec 3, 2012 Wilber Post

This goes out to Windows 7 I never knew there'd come a day When I'd be sayin' to you Don't let this good love slip away Now that we know that it's true Don't, don't you know the kind of man I am No, said I'd never fall in love again But it's real and the feeling comes shinin' through I'm so caught up in you, little girl And I never did suspect a thing So caught up in you, little girl That I never wanna get myself free And baby it's true, you're the one Who caught me, baby, you taught me How good it could be It took so long to change my mind I thought that love was a game I played around enough to find No two are ever the same You made me realize the love I'd missed So hot, love I couldn't quite resist When it's right, the light just comes shinin' through

Mon, Dec 3, 2012 Chris C

Would it hurt bloggers that much to DATE THEIR ARTICLES? What's this? The Bible?

On the other hand, kudos for your great attitude towards commenters. Anonymity IS the only guarantee of the free flow of ideas, and respect of anonymity shows you understand it's not people who are important, but their ideas.

As for Windows 8... It's the cry of agony of a company who has lost touch with reality. I'll pass on the frontal lobotomy, thank you very much.

Sun, Dec 2, 2012 Dean Poulsbo, WA

VISTA was great compared to Win 8. I have tried to like it. Far too much screwing around to get anything accomplished. MS missed the mark in my view. Thank goodness I can still remote desktop to my win7 ultimate machine... I plan to reformat my laptop and take it back to Win7

Sun, Dec 2, 2012 knightwolf6269

there needs to be a class action lawsute agents microsoft. enough is enough. i just today bought my self a copy of windows 8 pro for my media center pc, not only did they say media center comes in pro but they clam you can play xbox games in windows 8 neather of which is true. the charge an arm and a leg for software on you dont get what they say you shoud get what a ripoff.

Sun, Dec 2, 2012 Wilber None of your beezWax

Don Jones is down playing how bad Windows 8 really is. Smooth Don really farking smooth. Sellout. Jesus is watching you. Sinner

Sun, Dec 2, 2012 HsiaLin

Don Jones is a fool being paid by microsoft to push a completely inferior product. Why doesnt someone just come out and say it....the UI looks like it was invented at a fag convention.

Sun, Dec 2, 2012 Bill Gates Seattle

it's a lovely system People! , Please give it a chance and in time you will see. Windows 8 works in a way that no other OS has ever worked. I could go on and on about it's features and the awesome interface. We are really proud of what we done. It's designed to reprogram your mind for the NWO. It's true features haven't been implemented just yet. You will learn to love Windows 8 just give it time, it gets better :) Bill

Sun, Dec 2, 2012 Phil

Nobody is missing the point here. The point is Windows 8 sucks donkey balls. That's why a lot of People are Windows users are switching over to Mac. Apple is smart enough to keep the OS on it's Mac and iPad different. We don't want a smartphone OS on our $2000 Laptops that's just a fact jack. I don't want Apps on my Laptop do you want Apps on your laptop? then buy yourself an iPad or Tablet or Windows 8. Windows isn't stopping Apple from doing anything, they are stopping themselves it seems. People are switching over to Mac. That's not winning that's losing. Windows idea of going forward in reverse is comical.

Sat, Dec 1, 2012

You guys totally miss the point of windows 8! It's not build for an office use, what Microsoft is doing is getting in the Touch tablet market as hard as possible to finally beat Apple in their own game, and the best company to do it is Microsoft because nobody is as good as them in codes writing and I own an iPad I installed the metro on it and love it, but take your time to get used to it and a touch is a must also forget about the metro rt go for the PRO.

Sat, Dec 1, 2012 Michaël Québec City

Deep changes need sacrifices as the start menu who's finnaly the only thing people are angry to lose and that is normal because it was the perfect tool to quickly use a desktop while keeping it organise and ergonomic. But I think it is more usefull to get one environnement where you can use keyboard, mouse classic apps AND touch interface, modern apps. Instead of apple products where you need to get a mac or a pc to maximize your ipad experience. Ironnically, it can be possible to buy a ipad ans a surface windows 8 pro to sync it ...

Thu, Nov 29, 2012 DR Krunk Dark side of the moon

Personally - I seriously doubt DirectAccess and SMB 3.0 is going to convince very many enterprise IT managers to buy into Win8. I won't. There are already other, better, ways to do those things. Having to stay in an all-Microsoft ecosystem in itself is enough to make me dubious. I am totally lost as to who M$ is targeting with this OS. Is it consumers? They don't need DirectAccess and business doesn't need "Metro" - so who is this for? Houston - we have a problem, or at least the appearance of a problem. All that said - what shocks me is the most has nothing to do with M$ - it's the incredible lack of literacy among the people posting comments here, the lack of actual facts, the lack of common sense, the lack of ability to analyze what facts there are, the inability to spell simple words, not knowing the difference between "you're" and "your" .... all that. If I was still teaching middle-school English the comments here would flag all of you for remedial special education, and I'm not kidding. Its' frightening to think that this is the best that adult "IT Professionals" can do to communicate. No wonder China and India are eating our shorts - at least they can write clear English. Written communication skills get worse every year. The Internet has made us stupid - and lazy.

Thu, Nov 29, 2012 James Dean Dallas (Cloud) Texas

Thanks for the headsup. Just test drove Windows 8 this morning. Sold off 3/4s of my Microsoft stock before the afternoon bell. Thanks again.

Thu, Nov 29, 2012

Personal Rant follows: I am setting up my son's new laptop in preparation for it to be a Christmas gift. It has Windows 8 on it. I have spent about 30 minutes with it, and I am frustrated as hell. He has been using the family PC for a couple years and is familiar with what he is doing. I am not sure that this first "personal" computer will be seen as such a special gift when there is absolutely nothing intuitive about using this system. I am considering returning the laptop for one that has Windows 7 on it or getting him something different altogether.

Thu, Nov 29, 2012

I keep cringing knowing I have to get a new computer and this is what I have to look forward to. The in-thing today seems to be that companies get some artzy-fartzy type to come in and give everything a whole new "vision" then they completely disregard their user's wishes and stick to the Naziesque party line of pushing these mentally challenged interfaces out the door knowing full well how their users will probably hate it and it will detract from usability (Google is the archetype here). Then users be damned they will never admit a mistake because that will hurt stock prices. The heart and soul of computing is supposed to be making things easy for the users to customize to meet their needs and speed up processes, not forcing everyone to use unusable slop.

Tue, Nov 27, 2012 Jake uranus

I love Windows 8. Easy to use and good for us who are tarded. Love the square blocks and simple look to it cause I'm tarded. Fun to like alot and tablets and smartphones are super popular and everyone says they are awesome. Everyone goes crazy for these gadgets so i know what's good. I'm not dumb you can't fool me. Windows 8 has cool apps like on my phone and cool advertisements to watch for free. I hope the PC keeps evolving to be like the more powerful phone and tablet.phones replace the PC of last year. You can't fax, print, make data cds, or really get anything done at work, but the Facebook app is great and you can follow your status neat like to see if he said she said type drama on Facebook. Important stuff. I like Windows 8, I'm brilliant and a little tarded. Tarded is the new smart and if you think for yourself then you lost. That is all....ps i like people controlling me and telling me what to do. Imagination should be a crime. I like being tarded. Don't you?

Tue, Nov 27, 2012

Bought a new ultrabook with windows 8 .. I went into this with an open mind however after several days I have to agree WINDOWS 8 SUCKS. Its like an operating system and a touch emulator. I think MS is done for!

Tue, Nov 27, 2012 nys new york

i have to say that i have just bought a win 8 phone to try the os. And hands down its the ABSLOLUTELY WORSE i have ever seen. ONLY MS CAN RELEASE SOFTWARE THAT COMBINES THE WORSE FEATURES of all oses out there. its browser does not support flash there is no built in media player its like they want "apps" and that is it. they must assume all users are plain idiots ! if desktop version is anything like this then simply DO NOT GET IT !

Tue, Nov 27, 2012 N Brown

I have tried Windows 8 twice on my rig, the preview and 9200 and I don't see any speed increase on an I7 3770K processor, 16 gigs ram with SSD drive for the OS. I have seen speed tests ( on zdnet I think) and 7 was faster in some areas and 8 was faster in others. Maybe 8 is faster on older hardware? Anyway I will NEVER use 8 I hate cellphones so enough said there. The only reason MS kicked out Windows 8 was for the cash cycle it wasn't needed and why in the world do people think MS needs to compete with Mac on the desktop? Windows power users want PC's they control. Mac users want devices that do a few things they want really good. I have recommended Macs to non computer type people for years.

Tue, Nov 27, 2012

ME:Vista:8 All three of these operating systems have received beyond deserved ridicule. Don't get me wrong all of them are laughable to one degree or another however look at each of the priors next generation. XP: By far considered one of the best OS of all time. Win7: Finally brought together a slim OS with great features and an amazing engine under the hood. XP received almost all of its R&D from ME. Yes thats right the OS that was literally thrown away by many was the big brother to XP. Win7: Is a spitting image visually of Vista they just made a lot of tweaks under the hood to allow an over bogged OS to be quite a bit more nimble and much easier to run. NT: Aero: Metro: Each of these had a horrible first OS with something revolutionary to follow. As much as it pains me to say as I really do hate this business model It looks like we are just going to have to wait to see true seamlessly transitioning mobile computing via Cloud or other means come to fruition in 9.

Mon, Nov 26, 2012

will never buy a windows 8

Mon, Nov 26, 2012 Recall Windows 8! US

I am not sure who the primary target is for Windows 8 may be. I use a computer to get work done. If I need to update quicken, write a letter, build a spreadsheet, etc. Windows 7 keeps you focused on tasks, I use a computer to enhance my life, Not have a computer be my life. As much as I hate apple, I will buy an apple before windows 8!

Mon, Nov 26, 2012 Bobby Florida Line

I bought Windows 8 and install it on a good running windows Xp computer. Lost my Windows Office 2007 took the key with it, lost my Outlook mail, lost a lot of good software. I'm glad I have a Linux and a Windows 7 Computer, the poor XP computer is not worth the time now. Thanks Microsoft for the Windows 8 99% junk software. I will run Windows 7 until its end of life runs out and will be moving over to Linux or maybe look into an Apple.....I don't know why Microsoft did this, but they better get a Windows 8 Desktop ver like yesterday

Mon, Nov 26, 2012

I feel afraid after so many discussing to even think of Windows 8. Feel too much confused, maybe wll wait to Windows 9. New Windows must be straightfofoward that any user from 95 to 7 can install and manage it without any hassle.

Sun, Nov 25, 2012 BlogZilla Southern California, U.S.A.

The person that wrote this article acts like he works for Microsoft. He probably does. It's a very biased article and is not how most people feel about the terrible Windows 8 This is the most pathetic O/S release for a computer. It's worse than Windows Vista or Millenium. Microsoft thought that by making the O/S like their cell phone O/S, it would make more people buy their cell phones. I don't know what they were thinking, but they're retarded. Why? Because of this Metro Windows 8 O/S, Microsoft will lose many customers. They will also face a backlash from business customers that will force them to keep Windows 7 alive, just like last time with Windows X/P versus Windows Vista. Apple Computer will have many customers in their future; people that have never even considered an apple computer before will start buying Apple laptops because of Microsoft's Windows 8 nonsense. I don't want to use my desktop as a tablet or cell phone. I also don't want to use my dishwasher as a sink. Imagine that. :\ I also don't want a stripped down version of Windows 7, which is also what Windows 8 is. It's terrible and I think they need to stop consuming the sucralose or aspartame, and caffeine, whatever made them foist this grotesque O/S onto their soon-to-be ex-customers.

Sun, Nov 25, 2012

OMG windows 8 sucks notch from minecraft wont accept windows 8 and now minecraft will not play I am convincing my father to switch back to windows 7 it is better!!

Sat, Nov 24, 2012 TedBear

OMG, sorry but I am not buying the comments on here. Tried it and it sucks... Sorry but you can have as many MS sponsored posts, but this is a sorry interface. Please give a start menu without all the crap. I want a stable operating system without the fluff. I like the pretty pictures but OMG I need to work on my computer.

Fri, Nov 23, 2012

When I saw the comercials for Windows 8, I felt sick to my stommac. Contrary to popular belief everybody doesn't like touchscreens. I am one of those people. About six months ago I bought my first smartphone - an Xperia mini pro. It has a actual keyboard - thank god - and a touchscreen. And as with all things new I got used to it, and I hate using touchscreens with my entire beeing. Getting used to something doesn't meen that you like it. People in general don't like things to change. So if it's not broken don't fix it. However if you can improve it without changing everything you've got something. As a person stated previously, don't make your toaster into a tv, just make it a better toaster. If Microsoft wants to have a tv-toaster, thats up to them. But wouldn't all this massive discussions have been avoided if you could klick a tiny button in a corner and voila! You can switch back and fourth beetwen the new interfacestyle with everything that goes with it and a regularstyled interface. Then everybody can get what they want.

Fri, Nov 23, 2012 Carl Tustin, CA

I have tried Windows 8 with the new GUI and found it a very clumsy interface to use with a keyboard and mouse. I then installed StarDock Start8 from http://stardock.com/products/start8/ This brings back the Windows 7 style interface. You can boot straight to it and even disable the not-be-called-Metro-any-longer UI. For $4.99 it is well worth the price and the relief from Microsoft's newest exercise in frustration. I highly recommend it.

Fri, Nov 23, 2012 Brian

WINDOWS 8, I predict will go down as the worse OS roll out in the history of computing. The second worse roll out. Im so so tired, the world is tired being the people you depend on to QC your ugly intros. I really dislike APPLE but its now the lessor of evils. I bought an HP Envy from Best Buy, who both cover up this huge failure. It hangs, it crashes, no printer plugin to add printers in advanced printer setup, no Comcast connection. The tiles are cute.....if I have to say a positive.....other than that that do not buy WIN8 till March 2013.....give them time to QC their mess. Merry XMas.

Fri, Nov 23, 2012 retailer UK

i like windows 8 but some really small changes would make it so much better for the everyday computer user really good OS if you have a touch screen one to miss if you dont come on android a big chance for you :-) take the PC by storm

Thu, Nov 22, 2012 slmz00 Northern Canada

Win 8 is everything from all previous Windows and more. It does everything Win 7 did and just has a new "shell" ( for the old guys ). Did anyone notice the 2 suns on the Seattle logon screen? WORMWOOD

Wed, Nov 21, 2012

Correction: It would be nice if it installed. Tried five times but failed with no indication of why. Long time Windows (7) user.

Wed, Nov 21, 2012

It would be nice if installed...

Tue, Nov 20, 2012 What the?

OMG what a bunch of complainers! Jesus anyone would think MS came and took a dump on your breakfast. Windows 8 has one simple issue "wrong" with it. Missing start menu which takes ALL OF 2 MINS TO FIX! Once fixed windows 8 is like windows 7 but better.....seriously whats to complain about??!!! I love 8, it's faster and just runs better....if you don't want to use metro then don't....I don't. Stop complaining for 5 mins and you might actually see how much better it is.

Tue, Nov 20, 2012 BigShowlinuxuser3821 United States

so, yeah... WINDOWS 8 SUCKS! and if you read the comments, you will clearly see how a majority of feedback supports my claim. and those of you complaining that you cant get a computer without also getting win 8? forget it. just format the hard disk, and install any linux distro you wish, or mac. my favorite choices for linux are Ubuntu 12.04, Zorin os 6.1, and opensuse 12.2

Tue, Nov 20, 2012 EU

The problem is Microsoft wants standardization and customers want customization.
I want to be able to control: what desktop I have, if I have menus or ribbons, what options are displayed in my menus, if a program is started at boot time, if a program searches for updates automatically etc.

Mon, Nov 19, 2012 Philljones UK

When I came across Microsoft's offer of downloading this new version of Windows for £24.00, I thought, what's the catch? Was there a catch? seems far too cheap a price for Microsoft, Well after installing and testing and every day usage, yes there clearly was a catch, and it is simply this, we have been conned into a new version of windows, which is simply a cut down concoction of windows 7, with a start interface that's clearly not desktop friendly and clearly designed for mobile and tablet devices. Why bolt this useless piece of software on to a desktop OS? Is Microsoft expecting users to, shift from their clearly superior iphone and android tablets and mobiles? If they are then they are deluded. Some are heralding the speed of Windows 8, well that's not too difficult to achieve, given the way Microsoft have stripped down the graphical user interface, removing Aero Glass, Dynamic Icon resizing, to name but a few of the obvious software butchery that has gone on. Metro or Windows Live tiles, now where do I start with this! Firstly very poor deployment in quality of presentation as a concept, that is in no way going to be a threat to Google's Android, or Apple IOS 6 interface, and the usual Microsoft buggy experience in practice. Out of the box, there were too many Metro/Live tile apps from the Windows 8 market that failed to work correctly, from News apps to Net Radio to Video, all falling over on first run! Why was I not surprised, it's after all the Microsoft way. One can be forgiven for thinking that this version of Windows is a rather frantic attempt to keep up with the current revolution going on in the Google Android and Apple market. In conclusion forget the Microsoft Hype, this was clearly a missed opportunity by the Giant to make sound progress on their Windows 7 version, Windows 8 is a miss match fudge of ideas, that clearly demonstrates that Microsoft are losing their way. With the wealth of resources both financially, and intellectually, it's hard to believe that this version of Windows is the best that Microsoft could have come up with, to say that this is a missed opportunity is an understatement, and I'm sure most will feel it's even a waste of the modest £24.00.

Mon, Nov 19, 2012

I spent 4-5 hours hands on this weekend helping my father in law get going on Windows 8. While there are some interesting features there it made his life a nightmare and thus my life a nightmare. Sorry Microsoft. Folks want windows for windows. This is going to cause most businesses to freak and loose their mind. Hope you can replace those sales with cell phone OS users. If I want a distro that runs on a thumb drive I have had that for years in Slax, Ubuntu, etc... I don't need Windows for that.

Mon, Nov 19, 2012 Tommy Yorkshire

Windows 8 sucks. Telephones are used for making telephone calls. I need a computer OS, I don't want a stupid mobile phone OS like Winblows 8 on my PC. I want a PC OS on my PC. I formatted my harddrive yesterday wiping my Windows 7 disk clean. Since Microsoft is no longer providing a PC OS I no longer have any need to use Microsoft. Installed Linux Ultimate Edition and perfectly happy with it. I use my telephone to make telephone calls, and my desktop computer as a computer. I do not wish to use my telephone as a computer, I do not wish to use my desktop computer as a telephone, I do not wish to use my toaster as a television and I do not wish to use my toilet as an electronic storage device. While these big greedy fat cat corporations are going after little childish fads such as people using telephones as computers people like me who prefer a proper computer, with proper power, proper sound, proper gaming are being pushed out of the market. Well I will NOT be forced onto sub-standard devices. You CANNOT fit an Asustek Xonar Essence STX sound card into your mobile phone. You CANNOT put an Ati Radeon HD7870 GDDR5 into a mobile phone. Nor can you put in an Intel i5 3570k 3.5ghz Turbo Boost processor into a mobile phone. So don't tell me having this Windows 8 on a tiny little touchpad screen is better than having a proper computer. Sub-standard sound, sub-standard graphics, sub-standard gaming, sub-standard computing. The market is going BACKWARDS in technology not forwards. Don't fix what's not broke. I'll stick to my desktop thanks, keep your stupid mobile phone OS Winblows 8. People will just move onto a PC OS like Linux instead like I did

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 Philip

I don't understand why people are complaining so much about it. I bought Windows 8 after reading a lot of bad things about it. I truly thought I would be very difficult to use and got used to it in less than 30 minutes... there is nothing difficult about it. I don't know what is all this fuss about come on! It is faster than Windows 7, no doubt, it leads faster it is beautiful. Maybe they shouldn't have removed the start button I don't know why they didn't listen to us why remove it? Is it that difficult to keep this button? Anyway, I like it.

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 Munich Germany

I am so grateful that Issac Newton had quill and paper instead of a touch-screen and windows 8.

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 EU

In order to see how weak the whole windows 8 concept is - just watch a couple of the information videos which only move things on and off the screen or set radio buttons.
One could also read articles discussing "10 great window 8 apps". One of them listed "Clock" as first choice! WOW!

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 Bertbaby NY

This is what happens when a company confuses a marketing strategy for a GUI. And the only purpose of those shiny tiles is to plant a storefront on hundreds of millions of desktops. Windows 8 is not about improving the experience for desktop users, it's a failed hail mary pass by Redmond to become relevant within a single OS release. Metro is such a mess it's enough to give Melinda Gates a recurring bout of night terrors.

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 EU

Do you all remember how long we had to wait for screens large enough to show a reasonable amount of a spreadsheet? Is the size of W8 tiles an indication of how big these cells have to be if we are to access them with our fingers?

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 Munich Germany

"You'll get used to it quite quickly".
Why should I have to? Why not start changing the keyboard layout every 18 months. Its just a UI, and those who type blind are not modern anyway

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 Munich Germany

Microsoft doesn't care about people who use computers to work: writing reports, using pivot tables, designing buildings, doing civil engineering, measuring air quality, calculating orbits, or searching DNA. They are concentrating instead on people who spend their day "swiping" and "scrolling", listening and watching, socializing and downloading.
I remember sadly the reverence programmers felt for every CPU cycle in 1959. Today we spend Tera-watts supporting a UI that gets us to "apps" which don't do anything for us or society.

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 Josiah Smith Pacifica, CA

This post is cheerleading donkey shit. Windows 8 turns what used to be a powerful and robust OS into a giant extension of the iTunes store. Apps? The fuck are Apps? Is it a computer or a cell phone? Why should I have to sign into a Facebook, Google, and Twitter account just to download Flash player? Does the OP realize what a hunk of llama dung he is spewing? Windows 8 is a joke, plain and simple. It is designed for people who are more interested in their Facebook status than actually using a computer. Microsoft fucked the rest of us in chase of some mythical idiot that would prefer goofy ass bouncy UI buttons to a powerful computing experience. I am so pissed I can't return this laptop. I would feel better if Microsoft had just came in my mouth.

Sun, Nov 18, 2012 Smarty42 FL

I don't use the Dashboard on my Macs because I don't like it. But Apple doesn't force me to use it. I don't use the Metro interface in Windows 8 because I vomited when I had to use it for a few days. So I uninstalled Windows 8 and went with Mint linux with Win 7 in a VM for the times I still have to use Windows. Someone at MS should be fired over Windows 8. Oh wait. That happened.

Sat, Nov 17, 2012 jagdeep ludhiana

whats the status of windows 8 compartive windows 7 tell my detail Regards jagdeep

Fri, Nov 16, 2012 Mangas Aurora, Ontario, Canada

Ok, everyone do me a favor and stop complaining. Don, you are right on the money with your analysis. I actually like the kindergarten plain squares (which means that we have evolved full circle.) They do however need to upgrade some core apps desperately...like windows mail. it is actually far below the standard. Give some time to mature on the UI front, but as for the back end...its awesome.....

Thu, Nov 15, 2012 Daniel O'Brien Ontario

If you look at the big picture and into the future a little, you can see one thing coming... and fast... The whole ideal is not new... basically you will no longer have files of your own. Everything will be remote (in the cloud), your documents, pics and everything... basically if you take a picture with your camera and sync it to your PC or tablet or whatever, it will go directly into the cloud where IT being a document, picture or whatever you created become someone's property, no longer yours. You will pay to use your "files" just like you do now with the cloud. It's all about making money...not making things that work... It's all about selling APPS (cheap software that 1. doesn't work 2. cost money 3. is unsafe... If you want stable and usable the way you want it. go to Linux, if you have tried linux in the past, give it another go, it has come a long way...go open source, support it...

Thu, Nov 15, 2012 Microsoft Arrogance

Quote "the Metro-styled Start screen is a great idea." You have got to be kidding. Flat, 2D plain looking kindergarten-style huge icons are somehow a "great idea" and going-forward in the computing world? It's all about money, arrogance and marketing now, when software used to be all about engineering DISCIPLINE. It's a good thing ballmer, microsoft managers and employees are not involved in anything mission critical otherwise there would be planes crashing, missiles randomly launched, nationwide black-outs, wars started, etc. let-alone the change-for-no-reason mentality started by google and adopted by mozilla and micro$$oft. Everyone needs to start getting a clue and realized you don't HAVE to "relearn" a UI every 1.5 years if you would only stand up to these money-loving puffed-up "gotta change it" jerks. "It's more secure" Being careful is more secure and regardless of your windoze version you'd better be making monthly full DRIVE IMAGE backups. A windoze 2000 machine in the hands of a CAREFUL user is more secure than a windoze 8 machine surfing p0rn every evening. Every 2 years the interface is changed for no reason, breaking familiarity, becoming more hard-coded, less flexible and less customizable, more dumbed-down and first-grader-like. I wouldn't be surprised if "details view" is completely gone in windoze 8. If not, it will be by Windoze 8 SP1.

Wed, Nov 14, 2012 Jim Denver

Well the metro UI is awful and sucks..but what really is completely unusable is the UI for Office 13 and the UI in outlook Office 365. I cannot believe how bad the products are getting as of late. Everything new
is a just a complete pile of unusable shit………

Wed, Nov 14, 2012

Strange no ever mentions security vulnerabilities. This is just a jazz version of another disaster, Bob. A layer on top of another layer to simplify UI except it doesn't. Not meant for the corporate world with associated training costs and unknown issues and security vulnerabilities. Let's see. Windows phone Strike One Windows Zune Strike Two Windows 8 Strike Three?

Wed, Nov 14, 2012 Iowa

Windows 7 came loaded with a $15 upgrade to 8. That was the worst $15 I ever spent. I have XP on my old 32bit desktop It's great even though support is disappearing. Vista on my laptop is pathetic, I never liked it but it wasn't worth thew expense of upgrading. I thought the price of Windows 8 would be a good way to get everything on the same OS and make networking easier. Windows 8 isn't even an improvement on Vista. If I wanted an OS for a phone or a tablet I would have bought a phone or a tablet. What's the deal with having to watch advertisements to play games? Just another revenue stream for MS. Why would I want to go online to play Solitaire? Don't you realize it's played alone? And why do you think MS needs to decide when I'm ready for a more difficult level? I'm still capable of making my own decisions. Is Linux still around?

Wed, Nov 14, 2012 gmd Canada

Someone wrote down there that the author does not know ... To that someone, I would like to ask to just google that guy's name. Don Jones is a VBscript, Poweshell .... guru (maybe you don't even know what those words stand for ... He has been awarded the Microsoft MVP for I don't know how many years now .... Please stop talking about stuff you don't have a clue...About W8. I have it installed on my little Samsung Series 9 which have a multitouch touchpad ... So sweet... I love it, I think that is a very good move from MS.For people that don't like the Metro interface, W8 has a very powerful search feature. If you like typing, try it. It usually finds what you want after the 3rd letter. Amazing! Seems robust, productivity and entertainment in perfect symbiosis ....

Wed, Nov 14, 2012

Sure it is daunting at first, and yes quite complicated for the typical Windows user, but you guys are missing out on the transition in my opinion. It's like a step-by-step process to make the whole windows 7 look become history in a couple years time. That is why in my opinion they have joined the characteristics of both Window's 7 and 8 into this model and almost positive Microsoft's next project in the years to come will not be a combination of both but rather Windows 8 in all new PC's and laptops. This is because Window's 8 in years to come will become so common and easy to use just like it is at the moment to use Window's 7. Did you guys all forget about how the whole apple system was difficult to use when it was introduced?

Tue, Nov 13, 2012 Violet Weed Texas

Windows 8 is a BIG misstep for Microsoft. They designed it to be for notepads not for computers without touchscreens. Also, I am visually impaired and although the 'support lamebrains' told me the colors would not change, they changed so much I had to bring in a computer guy who could SEE to fix the colors so I COULD see. Luckily, I was one of the first Microsoft Certified Professionals, back in the day when that meant something so I knew to keep a printed copy of all my preferences including colors. Then of course I had to spend tedious time REMOVING all the 'bing' crapola, etc. etc. etc. Now I have a freebie replacement for the startbutton. Maybe if you are 10 years old and cannot type, you like a mouse-click interface like that stinkin' 'start' page, but I type close to 200 wpm and mouseclicking is a COMPLETE waste of time. The only good thing about this stupid 3rd-world 'techy' designed interface is that I make 200/hr fixing the problems for my clients. Thanks you f'ing fools! The end is coming for microsoft tick tock tick tock.

Tue, Nov 13, 2012 Middleclass Indian

Test drove W8 and was not impressed by it. Now why would I want to use my cell phone interface and want it to be same like my desktop? BTW, having great difficulty getting a new laptop without W8 in India. No one wants to give me one without an OS.
http://invulnerabilities.blogspot.in/2012/11/microsoft-windows-8-laptop.html

Tue, Nov 13, 2012 EricE

classicshell.sourceforge.net - you get the start menu back. I find Windows 8 drivers to be noticeably faster - especially with graphics and games which is my primary use for Windows. Once I discovered classic shell, I had no problems with Windows 8. It gives control back to user. I have started playing with the new start menu/screen, but I still don't find enough value to justify being forced to use it as my only choice and thus classic shell is a lifesaver.

Mon, Nov 12, 2012 John Mechanical Bath, NY

Can I have my XP back please? I "upgraded" to W8 to "get with the program" so to speak. And because Microsoft was ending support for XP. I had upgraded my old E-machine with a SSD hard drive, so it really clicked along well. With W8, it crashes and hangs up. W8 doesn't seem to like my Acer H203h. W8 is slow to respond. Some drivers only support W8-64 bit. (Mine is 32 bit.) Microsoft should return my $40 and put my machine back the way it was. But, its wrecked, now! W8 sucks! Maybe I should have upgraded to W7. Microsoft should be ashamed for putting out such crappy software!

Mon, Nov 12, 2012

like many I bought Windows 8 as I am up with technology and to my surprise I found it very easy to use, I have the capabilities of touch if I want but I don't need it, it loads very quickly compared to win 7, very responsive and yes it took some getting used to. To all of you stop moaning, and stop expecting all handed to you on a plate, sit down and learn and you will be rewarded and find out how easy it is to use. This goes for office 2013 too I wait to see this and to upgrade with interest.

Sun, Nov 11, 2012 fff brooklyn

Windows 8 is not so fast anyway. fast boot is nothing more then hibernate state. if you want to find out real boot time, just restart windows and it will take much more time to boot. windows 7 is about the same speed at boot as windows 8 and much less problems using desktop. this time microsoft sucks big, not to say aero is not there. what a joke!

Sun, Nov 11, 2012

No one is making anyone switch to windows 8. I don't know why you guys just stick with 7. Everyone knows Microsoft's trend good bad good bad good bad. This was was supposed to be a bad O.S. anyways.

Sat, Nov 10, 2012 HOUSEHOLDACTOR

No one is making anyone switch to windows 8. I don't know why you guys just stick with 7. Everyone knows Microsoft's trend good bad good bad good bad. This was was supposed to be a bad O.S. anyways.

Fri, Nov 9, 2012 BendOverUMightLikeIt

Agreed, this seems like a bias write up. This OS/UI is a mess, I loved another article where Apples rounded Icons was stated as looking dated, gee, squareish one are more modern, yeah thats the ticket, the words Fresh and Modern seem to get repeated as if subliminally picked from a glossy source and I amnot sure what value it has. A steering wheel with two pedals in my car looks dated, replacing them with a stick, adding rudder pedals, flaps control, isn't improving things, although this looks new and fresh, hey bring back 50 fins on my car. The bottom line you seem to have to do a lot of "movement" to get anything done. Isn't Metro the same look and feel UI from their old phone? Here in lies the problem, it is an UI that feels like it belongs and works well on a small screen where screen real estate is short. It doesn't work well 8 hours on a large desktop. What really sucks, you are stuck with it with any new desk top buy. Mac here I come. My time is worth something and when you think of the 1,200 people where I work having to tool up for this, pass. We were burned by Vista. As for the comment about Word Perfert being phased out are we still traumatized? LOL, we have secretaries who are high maintance, I don't care how much you explain things you might as well be talking to a rock, you will be back next week fixing the same old problems. The shocking thing is they all had mastered WP and that ,what was it called, revealed code. Word is a pain for them, sometimes in large docs it is just better to start over than try to edit it correctly. Word seems easier to use at first unlike Word Perfect, the deal is WP is a whole like easier to deal with once you get over the hump and you have large documents. Why did Word replace WP? It wasn't better, dirt cheap bundle deals given out by Redmond and "suits" impressing higher up with cost cuts.

Fri, Nov 9, 2012 Dustin Omaha, NE

Russ - In general I like Windows 8... but I do still have some gripes about it. I fully agree that Firepass sucks and unfortunately I don't have an alternative, however my point was that the claim that apps that work for Windows 7 will work for Windows 8. I have no problems with the Firepass client (either the desktop or the browser based connection) on Windows 7, however it won't work for Windows 8. I think it has something to do with Group Policy.

Tue, Nov 6, 2012 joemaya houston colorado

Your article is biased. Obviously microsoft paid you. The only thing true in this article is windows 8's speed. everything else is bullsh!t. The writer of this article should just go write tabloids. You don't know shit.

Tue, Nov 6, 2012 MSDN Subscriber since 1993

Why don't they just call it "Program Manager 2012"! Windows was a great idea when Xerox came up with it, and I've been using various Unix-based (Apollo, Sun, Silicon Graphics, later Apple) and MS Windows systems since the 80's. This thing breaks the beauty of that paradigm by imposing an unmovable, unsizable dashboard as a bottleneck with a series of maximized "apps" that behave in the same manner, and "oh bye the way" a "desktop" mode where windows traditional executables can reside. These types of touch-sensitive tiled apps have been around for embedded systems for 30 years, and they are fine for limited functions such as automated control, cash registers, readers, cellular and tablet devices. They are not OK with HIGH RESOLUTION (content much, much smaller than a fingertip) applications that run on computers such as CAD, publishing, database, programing, etc. The idea that one must toggle to a completely different screen to activate/search for programs is ludicrous and shows that what ever human factor analysis MS used to perform has been tossed aside. The idea of imposing this strange interface on Server 2012 shows that Gates is needed back. If the party line about Server 2012 is "if you don't like it, you can just use a Core Installation with PowerShell" then something is very wrong internally. Bad news: Entropy seems to have finally overtaken MS. Good news: It's just a bad GUI on top of some great improvements. Hope they can fix it before they are history.

Mon, Nov 5, 2012

People always like to complain about Microsoft. Ask yourself this. Has Apple offered you the flexibility and configuration that Microsoft has? Try installing IE on an Apple product.You can't. Microsoft got sued for the very same thing and had to mkae it possible to install Safari on Windows.I even have to provide a credit card to download freee apps from their App store. Microsoft has never made me do that. Microsoft has issues but from my experience they have always tried to make things better for their customers. Apple supplies a product and you either do it their way or hit the highway.

Mon, Nov 5, 2012 John

I think Microsoft made a huge mistake alienating its core PC users by forcing Tiles onto them for the sake of tablets. Because if your tablet sales fall flat you have now also killed off PC sales. How many PC makers will find this a double wammy in tough times? I think a simple option to choose a traditional desktop theme over the Tile's would have made Win 8 a more acceptable upgrade. Especially for $40. But instead Microsoft made a huge bet that Tiles would go over big and considering they have no real statistics that this would happen or has happened ( such as Windows phones). I suspect the gamble will not pay off. The success of a new OS directly relates to acceptance of it. If users don't accept the change it won't matter how good it is.

Mon, Nov 5, 2012 cardboard texas

Windows 8 is screwed up. I have spent a week trying to get it to operate so I can use it. When I type the letters jumps into other words. It is super hard to use. It is not user friendly. I am considering leaving Windows and their problems and going to MacBook. Windows has pused me over the edge. And made me waste good money on Windows 8

Mon, Nov 5, 2012 Falcon Canada

Thought I would also add to my previous post that on Windows Vista 64 bit Laptop, Win 8 installed flawlessly and looks great. Just wish I could get it working on my PC as well.

Mon, Nov 5, 2012 Falcon Canada

I've downloaded the Elec Version, paying for it twice now, after spending 6 days, min of 5 hrs each day with Microsoft trying to get Win 8 running, they did remote assistance, and created an ISO bootable USB it failed to install as well. Waiting for the backup DVD that I also ordered, in the hopes that it will work. If not I will be doing whatever is possible to get my money back. I had to tell Microsoft how to get to my BIOS because they didn't know. Tech 1, 2, and 3 support all failed to resolve my problem. Hopefully I'll get it working soon, although now I wish I had never even attempted it. HP laptop, that looks like a new BIOS would resolve all issues, but HP isn't willing to put one in place as they consider it not necessary. Laptop is only 8 months old. HP support is truly pathetic, as is so far Microsoft's. And everyone thought Apple's small hiccups were bad, they were nothing compared to Win 8. Truly frustrated user...

Sun, Nov 4, 2012

I love Microsoft! They finally gave me a reason to take the plunge and I defected to Apple! I should have my new Mac soon.

Sun, Nov 4, 2012 bob

I was really expecting to find things that annoyed me with 8 but I actually really liking it. It isn't all about metro the desktop has improved in many ways. metro can be used as simply a startscreen with weather or whatever or it can be used for more. I like the metro netflix much better then using the browser and xbox music is really nice. It always suprises me when it's booted up because it's so much faster. There really isn't that much to hate ounce you actually start using it. If you hate metro just use it as a glorified start screen and you are still to the desktop a good 20 sec before 7 would be booted up.

Sun, Nov 4, 2012 duder

I like earwax

Sat, Nov 3, 2012

I have read the comments about a total revamp to make a product better. That would be fine... if it was better. Usability issues, a poor Shell design, and a less than intuitive interface all hamper this product.

Sat, Nov 3, 2012

I have been harping about the learning curve for regular Windows users for years. Microsoft has chosen to ignore this. Moving from ANY windows platform to Windows 8 is a real drag. As you can see in at least one of the posts, there are some people that passionately love Windows 8. I, on the other hand am NOT one of those people. The list of examples why, would look like a novel here so I'll spare everyone by just listing a few. I am recommending to my friends, family and customers, to stay away. - The miserable interface was a real downer. Trying to close apps with a mouse is the first thing that pops up. The Installation is not configurable. That is is a problem for me too. There are things in Windows 8 I don't want on my computer at all. Tools I used in XP were banished because of "Bloat", and I can't not install, or uninstall features I do not use or want in windows 8? It was recommended that I just disable them. Of course, they are still there, taking up hard drive space, and sometimes still using resources, but since Microsoft feels my hard drive and computer resources are their playground, that shouldn't be a problem for me. Some intrusive features cannot be disabled without creating serious problems with the rest of the OS. Why?!! The list of things I don't like is specific, and goes on, and on. Microsoft. I would like a choice. For my own good, or why don't I like your "Cool" feature is not an answer; nor should it be YOUR choice. I am a user. Free me! MY choice, MY way. Reliable, and most important flexible for the individual. For my own good? Yeah.. right. A popular dictators mantra. I feel Microsoft really missed the boat with this OS. Are there some good things in Windows 8? Sure! But the negatives far outweigh the positives.

Fri, Nov 2, 2012

I like windows 8 I think its great you people fucking suck. Stop sucking your own dicks all the time faggots.

Wed, Oct 31, 2012

Sure hope they fixed the Win7 search. And the annoying habit of the tree dropping nodes to the bottom every time you open one. Both worked fine in XP.

Wed, Oct 31, 2012 kyotan lasaka

mike: everything is different yet. my dream is to have my desktop AND data accessible wherever i am. what i'd love to see: use my tablet as a keyboard and transfer device (see Windows to go in Win8) for a stationary pc and use the connected pc's computing power for work. when i plug out my keyboard, the whole system is still wholy contained on my tablet, so i can use it "on the road" as before. Now when I plug it to another machine, it loads the required drivers to access that pc's hardware and I still have the same system available with the computational power of the newly connected pc. and i am sure microsoft is thinking about that as well. ashok: a pragmatic reason: xp is getting dated, sincerely dated. and that is not because of its feel and functionality, but because the underlying core needs to keep pace with the evolution of hardware. as a developer i can tell you. you can hack so many features as updates into existing software until it gets bloated and unjustifiably hard to maintain. nothing's worse than legacy code. so yes, an overhaul sometimes means to integrate current thoughts on a topic and build it anew with extended functionalities from the ground up. voila, a new product is born.

Tue, Oct 30, 2012 ashok sharma INDIA

i dont understand why do away with XP evertime since the lauch of VISTA, give a real and good pragmatic reason to do so. I need an OS which can: browse internet etc has office apps can paly mutli media and HD is easy and intutive play simple games and etc... i think XP qualifies for these things. Rather microsoft must upgade this (means XP) OS and provide themes which can give same feel as win8 so called METRO. give good enough reson to switch and not because MS recommend so and want people to waste money on new OS which keep comming vey year or so. And my friend that is why lot of corporates and companies here are still sticking to XP becos they see no good reason to change. What do u think?

Tue, Oct 30, 2012 ashok sharma INDIA

i dont understand why do away with XP evertime since the lauch of VISTA, give a real and good pragmatic reason to do so. I need an OS which can: browse internet etc has office apps can paly mutli media and HD is easy and intutive play simple games and etc... i think XP qualifies for these things. Rather microsoft must upgade this (means XP) OS and provide themes which can give same feel as win8 so called METRO. give good enough reson to switch and not because MS recommend so and want people to waste money on new OS which keep comming vey year or so. And my friend that is why lot of corporates and companies here are still sticking to XP becos they see no good reason to change. What do u think?

Mon, Oct 29, 2012 Russ Painter Ireland

Dustin - the problem with Firepass and Windows 8 is not Microsoft's fault. Firepass just SUCKS at keeping up with the industry. I've had a few times in the past 2 years where I've upgraded my anti-virus software through the normal update process, and Firepass didn't recognize the newer version, so therefore declared that I had no antivirus, and was then a security risk. I really wish the Firepass team would get their act together.

Sat, Oct 27, 2012 Mike

Everything I do on my desktop is different than what I'd do with a tablet. Doesn't Microsoft get that? NOT EVERYTHING IS MOBILE! Microsoft has no vision so it's following fads.

Sun, Oct 14, 2012 Jame Gumb Siberia

"Apple-esque multi-touch trackpads with our computers (not just laptops)" NO NO NO NO NO NO Why would humanity go from something precise to something far less precise for desktop UI? Humans have extremely fine motor skills. Touchpads and touchscreens are the way they are as a compromise between accuracy and mobility. They are great for those with less fine motor skills I guess. Ever notice how toddlers LOVE tablets? Typing on a tablet or phone makes me want to smash it against concrete. I almost threw my iPhone against a wall once for autocorrect. You will pry the mouse from my cold, carpal-tunnel afflicted hand!!!

Sun, Oct 14, 2012 Diablorick Ohio

Well, I see many are complaining about the interface and I completely agree that it is horrible for the desktop. Microsoft made a huge mistake in forcing one version on the public. They made and even bigger mistake in forcing out the people who try to make start menu programs. We have all spent a fortune on high def TV's and BluRay players because we love things that are visually stimulating, but for some reason, Microsoft has choosen to insult us by apparently taking the interface back 20 years. The lack of Aero and any rounded corners or transparency makes it look like it was designed in 1990. I love the new features but I just can't get past the childish graphics. I have been running it for about a year in virtual machines and think to myself, why would I want this on a machine that has $1000 worth of video cards! It looks like it should be running on a 386. I am sure the preschool crowd will love the interface but seriously, even on a tablet it looks like a picture my 5 year old drew at school!

Wed, Oct 10, 2012 rob texas, usa

In reply to Mike Dee I would agree with you however all major companies are in slave labor. Making foreigners work for them for chump change. I wish we could stop all this because this hurts our economy...both Apple and Microsoft need to be held accountable but they are small players compared to the real big companies at fault in our economy.

Fri, Sep 28, 2012

To the below commenter, the author was speaking about the start screen specifically, not all of windows 8.

Wed, Sep 19, 2012

As soon as I read this "as the thing is practically unusable with just a mouse" I quit reading. Because this shows you've never actually tried using Windows 8. I have it and Windows server 2012 installed on two machines in my office and I can tell you that it works very well with the mouse. There is nothing I can not do with the mouse.

Tue, Sep 18, 2012 DP - A+, MCP, MOUS Canada

I have a PC for the PC feel and interface, not the feel and interface of a tablet. If I wanted a tablet, I would have bought a tablet. I don't own a touch screen, nor do I have any intention of buying one, I am quite happy using a mouse and keyboard as my interface, besides, I prefer not to have fingerprints all over my monitor.

Tue, Sep 4, 2012 Mike Dee

Microsoft practices slavery. They exploit labor laws in undemocratic countries and hire contract workers at 1/4th of a full time employee wage. As labor laws are lax in these countries, Microsoft can and do keep contracters for decades. I will never buy products from a company that practices modern day salvery

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 ling ho amerika

I totally disagree! why do so many hate so much this gorgeous, top notch quality nicely performing softwares ! I see lots of complaints about bugs which will be ironed out it is still an amazing software. I guess being able to code I have an appreciation of what they have done with it as I'm sure others on here will too! Windows 8 , the newcomer, it's innovative, powerful, bold, beautiful, authentic,sleek & sexxxy, spectacular !!! its fast, its fluid and well ,everthing feels just plain quicker and snappier! dont let Modern UI fool you this workhorse is ready for anything you can trow at it. from Facebook to Twitter integration it does it all! no more endless searching the web for the right app. thrill to over 650+ great appz & awesome games in the amazing new appz store. with many more sure to follow! run for weeks on a singal battery charge. this is "the" Ipad killer, Apple is surely doomed!

Tue, Aug 28, 2012 JJ

What's the big deal, people? Shutting down in Windows 8 Is NOT difficult. Just Alt+F4 on the desktop and you get the classic "Shut down Windows" prompt..

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 Andre

One thing that I really miss is the ability to simply click the Start Menu and then log out. Even the replacement Start Menus don't seem to have that option. Ease of use is lacking in this OS. It is frustrating because it has the latest enhancements and performance tweaks and security upgrades yet the interface is simply aggravating. I use the log off option a lot. Sometimes Windows will sometimes "forget" some to the Domain's share's mapped drive letters. Logging off then back on usually fixes this. There is a work around, if you installed a Start Menu replacement, you can type log in Search. One of the files found is logoff.exe, or, you can make a short cut to the logoff.exe file. The thing is, why should any of this be necessary? What is the point? I understand that they wanted to make a multipurpose OS but the changes they made simply don't make sense. It seems that they are forcing on us their vision of how we are to use Windows regardless of how we, the consumer, would like to use it. It seems that they want to force us to use the Modern interface whether we want to or not. The only way you get away with that is to have a monopoly. What happened to the old Microsoft where features and ease of use were important? I would be happy to see that again, keeping all the security enhancements, of course.

Mon, Aug 27, 2012 Ed Colorado

The Mac dashboard can launch actual, useful applications. I intentionally waited on forming an opinion on Win 8 usability until I could get some real experience on it. I hate it.

Sun, Aug 26, 2012 Beoweolf West coast, rockin'

I must admit - I formed my opinion aboutWindows 8, based on comments voiced by Mag Nags (professional magazine writers who thrive on creating controversy - rather than, just relaying the "facts" and trusting their readers)... I downloaded, installed and run Win8 - on my test and wipe client machine.After about a week (off and on use). Win 8 impressed me enough to install it my "Real" everyday machine. It ain't perfect - yet, but good enough to make an effort to actually use it every day. That's an accolade i do not give lightly. It will impress you - if you give it a chance.... mag Nag, be damned - iwin 8 is worth giving it a test drive - after al... it does have a Dash board interface.

Sat, Aug 25, 2012 Uncle Paul

The one thing that needs to be emphasized is that OS X does not default to the Dashboard as a means of navigation as "Metro" does and intrudes on the desktop. This feature is best suited to a mobile device, but is a huge pain in the butt on the desktop. I think if MS allowed for a preference to shut it off on the desktop, this would be a non-issue.

Sat, Aug 25, 2012 ron Poland

1.Windows8 has a start buton and a start menu 2.Win8 has desktop 3 Win8 is fully usable with mouse like win7 4 Win8 is fully backwards compatible. I don't understand all the fuss and panic

Sat, Aug 25, 2012

Jeez what a lot of whiny ass comments. Cost of training - are you and your colleagues still traumatised by the phase-out of WordPerfect?! And a dashboard - in either a car or a computer - is an information panel that helps you to control a device to achieve your (human, not computing) objectives. Equating the visible real world with an OS UI is confused at best. The point here is that Windows 8 is not kludgy by design, it's kludgy.because it's not Windows 8.1. It's simplistic to say that because version 1 sucks, therefore the whole concept sucks. From here it all sounds like anti-tablet, anti-touch bigotry.

Fri, Aug 24, 2012 College Dad

My big issue is with the "but it's mainly made as a dashboard -- think lightweight gadgets, not full applications. " Lightweight gadgets have their uses and there certainly is a place for them. The problem comes about when I want to do real work, efficiently and with the ability to utilize my dual quad core processor and 8 GB of RAM. Microsoft wants to homoginize everything with their name on it and users end up with desktops & laptops that are essentially partially crippled. The article mentions enhancements to things like VPN's and such, NONE of this required what was done to the GUI in the process. I'm all for technical improvements at almost any level, the styling formerly known as "Metro" should never have been used on any device larger than a tablet.

Fri, Aug 24, 2012 tlvp CT

When the car companies start pasting the dashboard up where the windshield ought to be, so that I can't see the road for the instruments, I'll stop buying cars. Likewise, mutatis mutandis, for obscuring the Windows work area with a layer full of Metro-style tiles.

Fri, Aug 24, 2012 Dustin Omaha

I have to agree with Joho to a degree. There are some things I like about the dashboard.. the "start typing - instant search" is pretty handy and I use it a lot. Unfortunately, there are usability issues. It's not about people whining because they're "not used to it". Here's a good example... as a developer I have multiple versions of Visual Studio installed. Sometimes I want to run the Visual Studio Command Prompt. The issue is that when you install multiple versions of VS, the command prompt is in the new dashboard with the same name. Now when you go to the start menu and type "Visu..." it will show up in the search results but there is no way to discern which result is which, whereas the old start menu was hierarchical so you could run whichever you wanted. Sure you can group your tiles in the new start menu, but the search becomes worthless for some items and forces you to scroll to the group and click yourself. Another thing I like to do is keep some icons on my desktop. I use Fences to organize frequently used applications in groups. With the new "dashboard" you can no longer right-click and "Copy Shortcut...". Instead, you have to browse to the executable location and create the shortcut manually. A third point is a couple of compatibility issues I've had... the primary of which being with VPN. I connect to an F5 via Firepass for work and after a clean install of Windows 8 RTM I can no longer connect, either through the browser or via the Big IP Client. The virtual adapter will actually install but the application cannot access it no matter what I try. This worked perfectly well in Windows 7 64-bit, so the claim that everything that worked in Windows 7 will work in Windows 8 is also a bit inaccurate. There are many things I like about Windows 8.. but I do have some legitimate complaints that have nothing to do with how Microsoft markets their product.

Fri, Aug 24, 2012 Dan Iowa

Congradulations, Don Jones! This is the first article I have read about Windows 8 where the author actually seems to know what he's talking about. It's like you actually spent time with Windows 8 before beginning to form an opinion. ;-)

Fri, Aug 24, 2012 joho0 United States

You have completely missed the mark .The problem with Windows 8 isn't the "message" coming form Redmond. The problem is the complete failure of the Metro interface, desktop, dashboard, or whatever you want to call it. It's the most kludgey and cumbersome interface I've ever had to deal with. It takes tasks that used to be one or two clicks and turns the into a scavenger hunt. On top of that, it's an absolute training nightmare. Microsoft could have been as forthright and upfront as possible about the changes and it would not have made one difference.

Fri, Aug 24, 2012

Your article misses one component that I have noticed with other postings concerning business use: cost of training. The interface for Windows 8 is different enough that it would be an issue for "regular" users. I agree that keyboard shortcuts help greatly, but most users tend to use a mouse. It will prove interesting to see the outcome over the next year.

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